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The discussion centers on the properties of the cyclic group C4, specifically regarding its generators. It is established that C4 has one cyclic subgroup of two elements, denoted as b, and two potential generators, a and c. The confusion arises from the interpretation of the statement that both a and c can serve as generators, which implies they are also cyclic subgroups of C4. The conclusion is that while a and c can be generators, they do not contradict the existence of b as the sole cyclic subgroup of two elements.

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Homework Statement



I do not understand the following statement (Please, see the attachment):

"C4 has trivial subgroups and only one cyclic subgroup of 2 elements, namely <b>. This is because both a and c can be verified to be generators of C4."

The Attempt at a Solution



The notation <something> is normally used to indicate a generator of a group.
However, the paragraph uses the notation only for the cyclic subgroup b such that <b>.

The following support statement
for the above clause is what I do not understand:
"This is because both a and c can be verified to be generators of C4."

If a subgroup has a generator, then it is a cyclic group.
The paragraph says that the group has two generators, a and c.
Then, a and c must be also cyclic subgroups of C4.

This is a contradiction to the first clause that C4 has only one generator b.

What does the paragraph really mean?
 

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I think they mean is that you can choose either a or c as the generator of the group. You only need one generator, and both elements are candidates for it.
 
xepma said:
I think they mean is that you can choose either a or c as the generator of the group. You only need one generator, and both elements are candidates for it.

Thank you for your answer!

Do you mean that a and c are subgroups of b?
It seems that if a subgroup has two elements, then these two elements are subgroups too.

If they are subgroups of b and b is a generator, then a and c seems to get the "generator" property from b.
 

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