Law of inertia states roughly that an object will remain

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The discussion revolves around the law of inertia and its implications for motion, particularly focusing on how to achieve and maintain constant velocity after applying a force. Participants explore the relationship between force, mass, acceleration, and velocity, addressing both conceptual and mathematical aspects of the topic.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the law of inertia indicates an object remains in its state of rest or motion unless acted upon by an external force, questioning how to maintain constant velocity after an initial acceleration.
  • Another participant asserts that no force is needed to keep an object moving at constant velocity, suggesting that once the desired speed is reached, the applied force should drop to zero.
  • A participant provides a numerical example to illustrate the calculation of force needed to reach a specific velocity within a given time frame, confirming that a force of 100N would be required to accelerate a 10kg ball to 10 m/s in 1 second.
  • Another contribution emphasizes that the net force acting on a body equals its mass times its acceleration, reinforcing the relationship between these variables.
  • One participant explains that applying a force results in acceleration, and if friction is negligible, the body will continue in constant motion after the force is removed, clarifying the role of force in initiating motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principle that no force is needed to maintain constant velocity, but there is some uncertainty regarding the mechanics of transitioning from acceleration to constant velocity and the role of friction in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concepts of force, acceleration, and inertia, with some statements reflecting potential misunderstandings about the conditions necessary for achieving constant velocity.

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The law of inertia states roughly that an object will remain in it's current state of rest or motion unless acted upon by an external force.

So if for example I wanted to move a ball of mass m from stationary I would have to overcome the inertia.

Ok so if I wanted the ball to accelerate at some rate a then I would apply a force F equal to ma (F=ma)

The next few statements just seem embarrassingly naive but hopefully they will allow you to get an idea of the concept I am just not understanding

So if for example I want the ball to move at a constant velocity v then how much force do you need to apply?

From what I understand if I wanted the ball to reach v more quickly I just apply a greater force. Surely then if you apply a greater force yes the acceleration is greater therefore the desired velocity v is reached sooner but will it not just continue accelerating? How to you achieve constant velocity after applying a force?

What I need to happen is I apply some force to accelerate the ball at some rate a for it to reach v in some desired time but then v to remain constant how does this work?

I suppose what I am asking is if acceleration is the rate at which velocity is changing and in this case velocity is constant and the acceleration is equal to the force/mass of object but you want a to be zero and v to be constant therefore momentum is constant?

Hope this makes sense

Dan
 
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a) No force is needed to keep an obeject moving at constant velocity.
b) If you apply a constant force you get a constant acceleration and the speed grows linearly with time.Once you reach the desired speed the force should drop to zero .
 


Gordianus said:
a) No force is needed to keep an obeject moving at constant velocity.
b) If you apply a constant force you get a constant acceleration and the speed grows linearly with time.Once you reach the desired speed the force should drop to zero .

Ok so by example if the ball was 10kg the desired velocity was 10ms-1 in 1 second :

a=10ms-2
m=10kg

F=10x10 = 100N

So a force of 100N would have to be applied for 1s to reach 10ms-1 in 1 second correct?
 


Yep.
 


The concept which you need to understand is that the "net" force acting on the body equals its mass times its acceleration.
 


Think of it like this:
The only thing that any force is doing is exerting a push or a pull on something. When exerting a force on a body you are just giving it a push. The harder you push, the faster it will pick up speed. In essence, this is f=ma. The harder you push, the faster it will accelerate. If friction is negligible, the body will remain in constant linear motion after the force has been exerted. It will remain in constant motion (no acceleration) until other forces act upon it. After you have applied the force, you must stop applying it to achieve constant motion. The only thing that the force will do is cause an acceleration, which would cause the motion to be inconsistent.
I hope this helps.
 

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