Length & Wavelength: Solving the Puzzle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the length of an air column based on the speed of sound and frequency of a tuning fork. Participants are exploring the relationship between wavelength and the length of the air column in a closed-end tube scenario.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of wavelength and its relation to the length of the air column, questioning whether length and wavelength are the same. There is mention of different harmonics affecting the relationship between length and wavelength.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the relationship between the length of the air column and the wavelength, noting that the length corresponds to a quarter of the wavelength in the case of a closed-end tube. There is ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply this relationship to find the length.

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The discussion references a diagram that is not present in the thread, which may be critical for understanding the problem setup. Participants also mention the fundamental harmonic and its implications for the length calculation.

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. If the speed of sound in air is 343 m/s and the frequency of the tuning fork is 225 Hz, what is the length of the air column shown in the diagram?

wavelength= v ÷ f
wavelength =343[m/s] ÷ 225[Hz]
wavelength =1.52 m


I'm not feeling this is right, what am I doing wrong? Is length and wavelength two completely different things?
 
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Well we need the diagram. Sometimes the length will be the same as the wavelength sometimes the length will be different. It depends on what harmonic the tube resonates at.
 
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The diagram shows a tuning fork vibrating over an air column closed at one end by water. The length of the air column can be varied and is one quarter of the wavelength of the longest standing waves set up by the tuning fork.

and that's the other information about it
 
The wavelength is right but don't forget that the length of an open-closed air column is not equal to the wavelength but rather only a quarter of it.
 
flyers said:
The wavelength is right but don't forget that the length of an open-closed air column is not equal to the wavelength but rather only a quarter of it.

Yes this is correct. You got the correct wavelength but there is only a quarter of a wavelength in the tube so find the appropriate length.
 
Thank you! so would I divide it by half?
 
Brittykitty said:
Thank you! so would I divide it by half?

Almost. It says the longest wavelengths (fundamental harmonic) are 4 times the length of the tube.

So to find the length of the tube you would divide by 4, not 2.
 
thank you so much :):) I meant 4, I'm not sure why I put 2 lol
 

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