Levi Civita notations, curls relating to 1/r fields

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical properties of curl operations in vector calculus, specifically using Levi Civita notation. The original poster is examining the curl of vector fields, particularly the expressions involving \(\nabla \times \frac{\bf \hat r}{r^{2}}\) and \(\nabla \times {\bf r}\), and their implications in the context of electrostatics.

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  • The original poster attempts to demonstrate the validity of certain mathematical steps involving curl operations and Levi Civita notation. They express concern about the legitimacy of their reasoning regarding the equality \(\epsilon_{ijk} \partial_{j} x_{k} = \epsilon_{ijk} \delta_{jk} = 0\). Other participants provide feedback on notation and clarity, suggesting improvements without altering the core reasoning.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on notation and mathematical expressions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proper use of indices in vector notation, and there is an exploration of the implications of the original poster's statements. No explicit consensus has been reached, but the conversation appears to be productive in clarifying concepts.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector calculus notation and its implications in theoretical physics, with a focus on ensuring mathematical rigor in their expressions. There is an acknowledgment of potential typos and the need for clarity in notation.

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This isn't really isn't strictly a homework question; there wouldn't be solutions provided. I know the answer -- if anything it follows from other electrostatic results. I would like to make sure what I have written down as steps are legitimate.

I will also skip ahead some steps because typing everything out would be very time consuming, especially if I have no idea if the codes will turn out right.

Homework Statement


Prove that
\nabla \times \frac{\bf \hat r}{r^{2}} = 0

\nabla \times {\bf r} = 0

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I begin with
\nabla \times {\bf r} = 0
Using Levi Civita notations,
\nabla \times {\bf r} = \epsilon_{ijk} \partial_{j} x_{k}=\epsilon_{ijk} \delta_{jk}
Where
\partial_{j} = \frac{d}{dx_{j}}
Here, I reason that for it to have a value, j=k in the kronecker delta, but if that is the case, then the levi civita tensor would be zero, hence, curl of a 1/r is zero.

Next,

\nabla \times \frac{\bf \hat r}{r^{2}} = \epsilon_{ijk} \partial_{j} (x_{k} (x_{b} x_{b})^{-3/2})
=\epsilon_{ijk}( (x_{b} x_{b})^{-5/2} \partial_{j}(x_{k}) - 3x_{k}x_{j}(x_{k} (x_{b} x_{b})^{-5/2}
=\frac{1}{r^{3}}\nabla \times {\bf {r}} - \frac{3}{r^5} {\bf {r}} \times {\bf r} = 0-3(0) = 0
 
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NaOH said:
\nabla \times \frac{\bf \hat r}{r^{2}} = \epsilon_{ijk} \partial_{j} (x_{k} (x_{b} x_{b})^{-3/2})
=\epsilon_{ijk}( (x_{b} x_{b})^{-5/2} \partial_{j}(x_{k}) - 3x_{k}x_{j}(x_{k} (x_{b} x_{b})^{-5/2}

There's a small typo in the 2nd line (the -5/2 exponent in the 1st term should still be a -3/2) but both of your calculations look perfectly fine. I would further nitpick a bit and suggest that when you convert from vector notation to index notation, you stick the free indices on the vector expression so that the indices match on both sides of every equation. So for example, I would write

$$ (\nabla \times \mathbf{r})_i = \epsilon_{ijk} \partial_{j} x_{k}.$$

You seem to have the important ideas sorted out though, so this is more a criticism of form than substance.
 
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Thank you for your reply fzero.

My lecturer that introduced these notations to us typed out exactly as I did (maybe without the embarrassing mistake!), so I thought that was the norm. I will include the free indices from now on, makes it clearer for me too.

I am really concerned if what I wrote
\epsilon_{ijk} \partial_{j} x_{k} = \epsilon_{ijk} \delta_{jk} = 0 is a legitimate mathematical statement.
 
Your statement is obviously true, because \delta_{jk}=0 for i \neq j and \epsilon_{ijk}=0 for j=k. So all terms in the sum \delta_{jk} \epsilon_{ijk}=0.

The other thing is that, strictly speaking the notation to equal a vector to one of its components doesn't make any mathematical sense. It is plain wrong! So the correct notation is
(\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{r})_i=\epsilon_{ijk} \partial_j x_k=\epsilon_{ijk} \delta_{jk}=0.
Since this holds for all i \in \{1,2,3 \} you have proven that
\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{r}=0.
Here, on the right-hand side stands the zero-vector!
 
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Thanks for the reply. I will keep that in mind!
 

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