Levi-Civita Connection: Properties and Examples

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The discussion revolves around properties of the Levi-Civita connection, specifically focusing on the behavior of derivatives of functions and one-forms on a manifold. Participants are examining the implications of the connection's symmetry and its effects on the differentiation of scalar fields and covectors.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the equality of mixed partial derivatives for scalar functions and question the necessity of the Levi-Civita condition. There is confusion regarding the nature of the covector resulting from the covariant derivative of a function and the implications of anti-symmetry in wedge products for one-forms.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing corrections and clarifications regarding the nature of covariant derivatives and their results. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties of derivatives in the context of the Levi-Civita connection, with some participants questioning their understanding of the underlying concepts.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of scalar fields and covectors, as well as the implications of the Levi-Civita connection's properties on their calculations. The distinction between scalar fields and their derivatives is a focal point of confusion.

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Homework Statement


Let V be a Levi-Civita connection.
a) Let ##f \in F(M)##, (function defined on the manifold M). Show that: ##\nabla_\mu \nabla_\nu f = \nabla_\nu \nabla_\mu f ##
b) Let ##\omega \in \Omega^1(M)## (one form on M). Show that ##d \omega = (\nabla_\mu \omega)_\nu dx^\mu \wedge dx^\nu##

Homework Equations


Levi-Civita is a symmetric connection, i.e. ##\Gamma^\alpha_{\mu \nu} = \Gamma^\alpha_{\nu \mu}##

The Attempt at a Solution


a) For any connection, function f and vector X, we have ##\nabla_X f = X[f]##. So in our case ##\nabla_\mu \nabla_nu f = \frac{\partial}{\partial x_\mu}\frac{\partial}{\partial x_\nu} f = \frac{\partial}{\partial x_\nu}\frac{\partial}{\partial x_\mu} f = \nabla_\nu \nabla_\mu f ##. Is this correct? And if so, why does the connection has to be Levi-Civita, it seems to work for any connection?

b) ##\omega = a_\nu dx^\nu##. By definition, ##d\omega = \frac{\partial a_\nu}{\partial x_\mu}dx^\mu \wedge dx^\nu##. But ##(\nabla_\mu \omega)_\nu = \frac{\partial a_\nu}{\partial x_\mu} - \Gamma^\lambda_{\mu\nu}a_\lambda##. I am a bit confused of what I did wrong here, as the 2 results don't match and ##\Gamma^\lambda_{\mu\nu}## doesn't vanish, even in a Levi Civita connection. Can someone help me? Thank you!
 
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Silviu said:
Is this correct?
No, it is not correct. ##\nabla_\nu f## is not a scalar. It is the components of a covector.

In (b) you are not taking into account that the wedge product is anti-symmetric.
 
Orodruin said:
No, it is not correct. ##\nabla_\nu f## is not a scalar. It is the components of a covector.

In (b) you are not taking into account that the wedge product is anti-symmetric.
So for part b), ##\Gamma^{\lambda}_{\mu \nu}a_\lambda dx^\mu \wedge dx^\nu## vanishes because we multiply a symmetric term with an antisymmetric term. Thank you! For part a) I am not sure I understand. Isn't ##\nabla_\nu f = \frac{\partial}{\partial x^\nu}f##, which is just the derivative of a function, which is a number, so it creates a scalar field?
 
Silviu said:
Isn't ∇νf=∂∂xνf∇νf=∂∂xνf\nabla_\nu f = \frac{\partial}{\partial x^\nu}f, which is just the derivative of a function, which is a number, so it creates a scalar field?
No.
 
Orodruin said:
No.
Then, what is the right formula for ##\nabla_\nu f##?
 
Silviu said:
Then, what is the right formula for ##\nabla_\nu f##?
For a scalar field ##\nabla_\nu f = \partial_\nu f##, but ##\partial_\nu f## is not a scalar field so generally ##\nabla_\mu \partial_\nu f \neq \partial_\mu \partial_\nu f##. Compare to the components of the gradient in regular Euclidean space.
 
Orodruin said:
For a scalar field ##\nabla_\nu f = \partial_\nu f##, but ##\partial_\nu f## is not a scalar field so generally ##\nabla_\mu \partial_\nu f \neq \partial_\mu \partial_\nu f##. Compare to the components of the gradient in regular Euclidean space.
So do you mean to treat ##\partial_\nu f## as a vector field?
 
Silviu said:
So do you mean to treat ##\partial_\nu f## as a vector field?
You should, because it is a (dual) vector field.
 
Orodruin said:
You should, because it is a (dual) vector field.
Thanks a lot!
 

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