Would a frog be able to withstand a strong magnetic field without harm?

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The discussion centers on the effects of strong magnetic fields, specifically around 10 Tesla, on living organisms, using the example of a levitating frog. Participants confirm that the frog remained unharmed due to the nature of diamagnetic levitation, which acts uniformly at the atomic level, creating a sensation of free fall without disrupting neural functions. Neuroscientists utilize magnetic fields up to 7 Tesla for imaging without adverse effects, indicating that orientation and movement through the field are crucial factors in potential electrical interference. The conversation also critiques the efficacy of magnetic therapy products, labeling them as fraudulent.

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Greetings !

Some time ago I read about all those experiments
when they used very powerful magnetic fields
on the order of 10 Tesla (10^5 Gauss) and
above to make stuff levitate. I also
saw a picture of a levitating frog.
My question is - how come that frog stayed
alive ? Wouldn't such a powerful magnetic
field totally disrupt its entire nerveous system
and brain functions ?

Live long and prosper.
 
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Just a question:
How did you know it was alive ?
 
Originally posted by STAii
Just a question:
How did you know it was alive ?
It moved while being levitated and they
say it felt quite "fine" after that experience. :smile:
 
i remember seeing the same thing done with a spider. it moved around and everything while they did it
 
HM...Why do magnetic fields affect these animals? Can a strong enough magnetic field levitate anything?
 
Diamagnetic levitation.

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/marty/diamag/

Note that this magnetic replusion acts at the atomic scale. Since each atom is acted on by a nearly identical force, the frog feels like it is in free fall.
 
Originally posted by Janus
Note that this magnetic replusion acts at the atomic scale. Since each atom is acted on by a nearly identical force, the frog feels like it is in free fall.
Yes, but what about the nerve system and the
brain (based upon electrical signal exchange) ?
No damage ?

Live long and prosper.
 
neuroscientist uses up to 7Tesla imaging magnets on animals, 3T on people and that does nothing to you.

but also we can use magnets to disrupt certain areas of the brain.it's called transcranial magnetic stimulation(TMS). it's relatively new but I'm pretty sure does not use that many Teslas.

so i think that maybe the orientation of the field may matter in terms of disrupting neural activity. actually I'm pretty sure it does. in TMS you can change the orietation of the field and the effect will go away.
 
If there is no magnetic flux (either by fast movement through the magnetic field, or by rapidly altering the strength of the field), there will be no effect of electrical interferance.

In this case the magnetic field is stationary, and the frog is not moving through enough of a magnetic field gradient to cause electrical induction interference, so he is completely fine.

There are plenty of 'magnetic' therapies products on the market, those employing permanent magnets are completely ridiculous, preying on ignorance and stupidity, and if they are making any claim at all, it is a complete lie.

However, a pulsed magnet does have an effect on central nervous systems, and people are working on how to apply this in a benificial way.
 

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