Lewis Structures and Valence Electrons?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the drawing of Lewis structures and the arrangement of valence electrons around element symbols. Participants explore the order of placing valence electrons, specifically in the context of molecules like C₂H₅I and complex ions such as OH-.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether valence electrons must be placed in a specific order around the element symbol, particularly for carbon.
  • Another participant suggests placing each electron one at a time on each side of the chemical symbol before pairing them, unless the atom has more than four valence electrons.
  • A different participant asserts that the order of electrons does not matter, as long as the correct number is represented, but notes that some instructors may have specific preferences.
  • Regarding the OH- ion, a participant describes how to draw the structure by bonding oxygen and hydrogen and placing additional electrons around the oxygen to satisfy the valence requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the order of placing valence electrons is important. While some suggest a specific method, others argue that the order is flexible as long as the total number of electrons is correct.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about the audience's familiarity with Lewis structures and valence electron concepts, and the discussion does not resolve the question of whether a specific order is necessary.

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Hi there!

I was wondering if anyone could help me. With Lewis Structures and Valence electrons, do the valence electrons have to go in a certain order around the element symbol?
ie: four dots around each side of carbon, or two on the left side and two on the right side?

How would you do one like C₂H₅I?

One more question, how would one draw a lewis structure for a complex ion, like OH-?

Thanks! :)
 
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First place each electron one at a time (unpaired) on each of 4 sides of the chemical symbol. Only start pairing them up if you have an atom with more than 4 valence e's.

Hope this helped.
 
No, it doesn't matter what order you have the electrons on the symbol, as long as you have the correct number. Of course, you could have a very anal teacher, in which case, do it how he wants it.

When drawing OH- what you would do of course, is bond the oxygen and the hydrogen with a single bond (hydrogen can never take more than a single bond) that counts as two of your 8 (it is 8 valence electrons because it is minus, if it was neutral than it would be 7 [6 valence electrons on the oxygen and 1 on the hydrogen]) electrons. Therefore you need to place 6 more electrons, and in this case, the only place to put them is around the oxygen, so you will draw 6 little dots around your O.

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Thank you very much for your help! I can finish up my report now. :)
I am understanding these better~!
 

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