Liftoff for Ceres and Vesta (July 2007)

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Ceres, with a diameter of about 1000 km, is believed to have a thick layer of ice approximately 100 km deep, suggesting potential for human habitation by tunneling. The Dawn probe, utilizing ion propulsion, is set to launch in July 2007, first orbiting Vesta before moving on to Ceres, which it will reach in February 2015. The discussion highlights the significance of Ceres as a potential resource hub in the inner solar system due to its accessible water and hydrogen. Participants express interest in the specifics of the ion engine and trajectory details for simulation purposes. The conversation also touches on the potential for future missions to the asteroid belt using traditional thrust methods.
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Ceres is about 1000 km diameter and appears covered with a thick layer of ice, estimated on order of 100 km deep

which means I suppose that in a pinch (with an artificial source of energy) you could live there by tunneling under the ice

the "Dawn" probe will use ION PROPULSION to maneuver.

it will launch in July and go to Vesta
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/15jun_dawn.htm?list45222

and go into orbit around Vesta

after studying Vesta it will use ion drive to get out of orbit around Vesta and move on to Ceres.
 
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Ooohhh... An Ion Engine... So, are there any stats out there on the engine? Such as, what fuel it uses, specific impulse and such?

And yes, I'm back after not posting for a long, long, long, long time... :biggrin:
 
MadScientist 1000 said:
Ooohhh... An Ion Engine... So, are there any stats out there on the engine? Such as, what fuel it uses, specific impulse and such?

Here:
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/ion_prop.asp
 
Am I blind, or does that article not say when the probe is due to reach Vesta? It says it will arrive at Ceres in February, 2015, but nothing about when it arrives on Vesta.

Interesting stuff anyway, I hope the "asteroid hop" goes off without a hitch.
 
You are blind! It said it would reach Vesta in October 2011.
 
MadScientist 1000 said:
Ooohhh... An Ion Engine... So, are there any stats out there on the engine? Such as, what fuel it uses, specific impulse and such?...

By now I assume you have the stats you want.
Since you are a mad scientist you may want to consider the idea that
Ceres is the only large readily available supply of propellant (water, hydrogen) in the inner solar system----that is, this side of Jupiter---and therefore

Whoever controls Ceres controls the inner solar system. Nyahah-hah-hah-haaaaaah![/size]

lift-off from Ceres is relatively easy since low Ceres orbit velocity is comparable to the speed of sound on earth---a few hundred mph.
 
This is such a neat mission. I wish I could find more info on the trajectory. I want to simulate this in Gravity Simulator, but I need to know stuff like duration and direction of the thrust.

Ceres and Vesta are in very similar orbits. If they had a little more mass they would probably be in 1:1 resonant horseshoe orbits like Saturn's Janus and Epimetheus. That's why its easy to jump from one to the other with very limited thrust.

I think it would be neat to do another mission to the asteroid belt as well, using more traditional forms of thrust. Orbiting the Sun in the heart of the asteroid belt, a craft could potentially visit hundreds of asteroids on flyby trajectories, accumulating data about their mass by the bend in the trajectory. This would help us really understand the asteroid belt.
 
Have they announced a specific date in July yet?
 

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