Light vs Radio attenuation in water

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Light attenuation in water occurs in the order of red to violet, with red light being absorbed first due to its longer wavelength. In contrast, radio waves, which operate at lower frequencies (longer wavelengths), experience less attenuation underwater, allowing for limited communication with submarines. This discrepancy arises because the relationship between wavelength and attenuation is not uniform across the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The visible spectrum exhibits a unique behavior, characterized by low attenuation in specific regions.

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  • Understanding of electromagnetic spectrum and wavelengths
  • Knowledge of light absorption and attenuation principles
  • Familiarity with radio wave communication technologies
  • Basic concepts of underwater acoustics and optics
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  • Research the electromagnetic spectrum's attenuation characteristics in water
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  • Explore radio wave propagation and its limitations underwater
  • Investigate the relationship between frequency and attenuation for various electromagnetic waves
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Hi all,

I can't figure this one out, but I'm sure I'm probably missing something simple. Here's the problem I'm having: From what I've been told in my SCUBA class (as well as from online article's and forums) light is attenuated in water in the order red->violet (red being attenuated first). Red light has longer wavelengths than violet light, so this leads me to believe that longer wavelengths are more attenuated underwater than shorter wavelengths.

However, it was my understanding that if radio towers wished to communicate with a submarine underwater, they can only barely make it work if they transmit at low frequencies (longer wavelengths), and not at all at higher frequencies. THIS leads me to believe that lower frequencies are less attenuated in water, which is contradictory to the first paragraph.

What is it that I'm missing from this picture?

Thank you very much, this has been bugging me for a while.
 
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The relationship you mention, the absorption decreasing with increasing wavelegth is a very local one, it happens for some regions of the spectrum but cannot be extended to the whole spectrum.
You can get a n idea of how more complex the things are if you look for example here, where you can see the variation of the attenuation in water for electromagnetic waves. It does not have radio waves included but I hope you can get some idea.
The visible spectrum is located in that deep valley corresponding to a very low attenuation.
 

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