Limit of Absolute Sequence: Is the Sandwich Theorem Applicable?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the limit of the sequence a_n = abs(sin(x))^(1/x) and the applicability of the Sandwich Theorem in this context. Participants are exploring the behavior of the sequence as x approaches infinity, particularly focusing on the limit's existence and the implications of the density of real numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the Sandwich Theorem and the assumptions regarding the values of sin(x) for integer x. Questions arise about the validity of assuming that sin(x) does not equal zero and the implications of the density of real numbers on the limit of the sequence.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the arguments presented, with some participants questioning the rigor of the assumptions made. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to prove the existence of a bounding M and the behavior of M^(1/x) as x increases. Multiple interpretations of the sequence's behavior are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the values of sin(n) and the implications of these assumptions on the limit. There is a noted concern about the correctness of the reasoning related to the density of real numbers and its relevance to the problem.

ohreally1234
Messages
13
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Consider the sequence a_n = abs(sin(x))^(1/x)
Find the lim a_n if it exists

Homework Equations



None. This is for my calc 2 class.

The Attempt at a Solution



We are studying the sandwich theorem, so I thought 0 < M^(1/x) < abs(sin(x))^(1/x) < 1^(1/x).
(Because I assumed that sequences imply x = 1, 2, 3, 4 ..., so sin(x) never equals 0).

Since M^(1/x) and 1 both tend to 1, I reasoned a_n must go to 1.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Do you mean a_{n}=|sin(n)|^{\frac{1}{n}}? Second, \sqrt[x]{1} does not tend to 0 as x becomes large, nor does even \sqrt[x]{\frac{1}{2}}. That doesn't make using 1 any less valid, you just made an incorrect assumption.
 
Last edited:
sorry i meant that lim goes to 1. (fixed the typo in original post)
 
You're almost there, but I'm not convinced. Can you prove the existence of an M and that \sqrt[x]{M} goes to 1 as x becomes large? I'm not sure how much rigor is required in your class.
 
Last edited:
I reasoned that M exists because the real numbers are dense.
and you can prove M^(1/x) goes to 1 using the definition of the limit.
Are there any holes in my argument?
 
ohreally1234 said:
(Because I assumed that sequences imply x = 1, 2, 3, 4 ..., so sin(x) never equals 0).

Well, it won't equal *exactly* 0, but doesn't the density of the reals imply that it gets arbitrarily close? What is \liminf_{n\to\infty}\left|\sin(n)\right|?
 
hmm yeah i thought that part of my argument was a bit shady.
can anyone offer some insights?
 
ohreally1234 said:
I reasoned that M exists because the real numbers are dense.
The real numbers are dense in what?

and you can prove M^(1/x) goes to 1 using the definition of the limit.
Are there any holes in my argument?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K