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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = -1/x at the point a = 1 using the limit definition of the derivative. Participants are engaged in algebraic manipulation and addressing issues related to the correctness of their calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the limit definition of the derivative but expresses uncertainty about their algebraic steps. Some participants point out errors in fraction addition and suggest clarifications in the algebraic expressions used. Others discuss the formatting of their LaTeX code and its readability.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's posts, providing feedback on algebraic errors and discussing formatting issues. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the steps involved in the derivative calculation, although no consensus on the final approach has been reached.

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I forgot how to do the algebra in this one.

[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> f(x) = \frac{{ - 1}}{x};\,\,a = 1 \\ <br /> \\ <br /> f'(a) = \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{f(a + h) - f(a)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\frac{{ - 1}}{{a + h}} - \frac{{ - 1}}{a}}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\frac{{ - 1a}}{{a(a + h)}} - \frac{{ - 1(a + h)}}{{a(a + h)}}}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - a - a + h}}{{a(a + h)}}} \right)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - 2a + h}}{{a^2 + ah}}} \right)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{ - 2a + h}}{{a^2 + ah}}\,\,\frac{1}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{ - 2a + h}}{{h\left( {a^2 + ah} \right)}} \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

Am I even going in the right direction? If so, what comes next?
 
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You screwed up adding the fractions. -(-1) = 1.
 
That's a bit nicer. Thanks d leet
[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> f(x) = \frac{{ - 1}}{x};\,\,a = 1 \\ <br /> \\ <br /> f'(a) = \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{f(a + h) - f(a)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\frac{{ - 1}}{{a + h}} - \frac{{ - 1}}{a}}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\frac{{ - 1a}}{{a(a + h)}} - \frac{{ - 1(a + h)}}{{a(a + h)}}}}{a} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - a - \left( { - a - h} \right)}}{{a(a + h)}}} \right)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - a + a + h}}{{a(a + h)}}} \right)}}{h} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - a + a + h}}{{a(a + h)}}} \right)}}{h} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{h}{{a^2 + ah}}} \right)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{h}{{a^2 + ah}}\,\,\frac{1}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{h}{{h\left( {a^2 + ah} \right)}} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> f'(a) = \frac{1}{{a^2 }} \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]
Now I can't find my TEX error, but I get the right answer: 1/a^2
 
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[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> f(x) = \frac{{ - 1}}{x};\,\,a = 1 \\ <br /> \\ <br /> f'(a) = \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{f(a + h) - f(a)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\frac{{ - 1}}{{a + h}} - \frac{{ - 1}}{a}}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\frac{{ - 1a}}{{a(a + h)}} - \frac{{ - 1(a + h)}}{{a(a + h)}}}}{a} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - a - \left( { - a - h} \right)}}{{a(a + h)}}} \right)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - a + a + h}}{{a(a + h)}}} \right)}}{h} \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]
[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{{ - a + a + h}}{{a(a + h)}}} \right)}}{h} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{{\left( {\frac{h}{{a^2 + ah}}} \right)}}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{h}{{a^2 + ah}}\,\,\frac{1}{h} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{h \to 0} \frac{h}{{h\left( {a^2 + ah} \right)}} = \\ <br /> \\ <br /> f'(a) = \frac{1}{{a^2 }} \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]
I think you should split it up a bit, it seems to work if you split it into 2 LaTeX images. However, IMHO, you are using way too many brackets of the type {...}. It should be clearer if you you less of them. Say, instead of typing \frac{{-1}}{a}, just type:
\frac{-1}{a}, which also displays the correct image, but the code does look nicer, right?
[tex]\frac{-1}{a}[/tex]
Don't complicate things... :)
 
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Thanks, VietDao. I was having some trouble with the forum. Clicking on my code wouldn't open it so I couldn't edit it.

Actually, I didn't hand-code this TEX. I use Math-type, which translates it into tex for me. In a sense it's like using MS Word to write a simple web page. Hand-coding HTML is short and to the point, and the code looks nice. But the Word version, even in the simplest example is mind-numbingly complex.

I'm better with Math-type than tex, and Math-type let's you see what you're typing, i.e., WYSIWYG. So for the longer problems I use Math-type and have it translate.

Thanks for fixing it for me. It was frusterating me more than dumb mistake than d leet pointed out to me.
 

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