LIMITS, complicated square roots and factoring

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression \(\frac{\sqrt{1+h}-1}{h}\) as \(h\) approaches 0. Participants explore various approaches to simplify the expression, including the use of rationalization and factoring techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their initial approach, specifically questioning the validity of converting the square root into separate terms.
  • Another participant corrects the misunderstanding regarding the square root, indicating that \(\sqrt{1 + h}\) does not equal \(\sqrt{1} + \sqrt{h}\) for all \(h\).
  • A suggestion is made to multiply the numerator and denominator by \(\sqrt{1+h} + 1\) to facilitate simplification.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of understanding the expansion of the product \((a-b)(a+b)\) in the context of the suggested multiplication.
  • One participant reports success in rationalizing the expression and arrives at a result of one half, attributing their progress to the assistance received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial approach to the limit problem, with some corrections and suggestions being made. The discussion remains open with various methods being proposed and explored.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the manipulation of square roots and the steps taken to simplify the limit expression. The discussion reflects differing levels of understanding and approaches to the problem.

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The question is as follows:
[tex]\frac{lim}{h\rightarrow0}[/tex] [tex]\frac{\sqrt{1+h}-1}{h}[/tex]

I don't know if the way I approached the question is right, I'll give you a step by step of what I attempted:
First I converted the square root into 11/2 and h1/2 (can I do that? Is that correct?)
Then I continued to evaluate, getting h1/2 over h
Finally I determined the value to be 0 because 0-1/2 is 0.

I feel as though my first step is where I might have errored but I'm not sure how else to approach it, perhaps by converting the h to a h-1
 
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susan__t said:
First I converted the square root into 11/2 and h1/2 (can I do that? Is that correct?)
Are you saying that [itex]\sqrt{1 + h} = \sqrt{1} + \sqrt{h}[/itex] (for all h)? If so, then no, this is not correct.

but I'm not sure how else to approach it
Hint: Multiply top and bottom by [itex]\sqrt{1+h} + 1[/itex], and see what happens.
 
Hi again Susan_t;

When you do the multiplication suggested above, think about how the product [tex](a-b)(a+b)[/tex] is expanded.

I don't like the word "trick" in relation to mathematics, but the suggested step given by morphism will be a handy one to master in your studies.
 
Yes! that definitely got my wheels turning, I ended up rationalizing it by the multiplying of both the top and the bottom of the equation with the opposite of the numerator and an answer of one half. Thanks for the help again
 

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