Linear Algebra and Complex Numbers

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around representing complex numbers as 2x2 matrices within the context of linear algebra. Participants explore the mathematical properties and representations of complex numbers, particularly focusing on their real and imaginary components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to represent the number one in matrix form and the concept of the multiplicative identity for 2x2 matrices. There is an exploration of how to represent the imaginary unit 'i' in matrix form, particularly through rotation matrices.

Discussion Status

Several participants have contributed ideas and corrections regarding the matrix representations. There is a productive exchange of thoughts, with some participants suggesting specific matrix forms and others confirming or refining those suggestions. The discussion appears to be moving towards a consensus on the representation of complex numbers as matrices.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of a linear algebra course and are at an early stage of their studies, which may influence their understanding and approaches to the problem.

SNOOTCHIEBOOCHEE
Messages
141
Reaction score
0
1. Complex analysis is the study of number z= x+iy where i^2=-1. can you find a way to represent complex numbers as 2x2 matrices



i honestly have no clue where to start with this one. we are one week through my linear algebra course.

the only possible thing i can thing of is det (x -yi
1 1) but that seems really wrong
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Okay, how do we represent the number one in matrix form?
 
Google gave me some pretty fruitful results on this one.
 
the number 1 in matrix form is just [1]
 
No, we're talking about 2 by 2 matrices. 1 is the "multiplicative identity" for the real numbers. What is the multiplicative identity for 2 by 2 matrices?

Now think about i. Where would you put the 1's so multiplying the matrix by itself will give you the negative of the identity matrix?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
diagonol 1's i don't know how to use LAtex but its like [1 0;0 1] on MATLAB prolly the transpose of that for the second question your asking
 
I meant in 2x2 form. I'll start for you, we can write the real component as;

[tex]\Re = x\cdot\left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1\end{array}\right][/tex]

In otherwords, the 2x2 identity matrix. Now, for the imaginary part we want a matrix which represent an anti-clockwise rotation by [itex]\pi/2[/itex] about the origin. Can you think of a matrix that does this?

EDIT: Halls strikes again.
 
[0 1
1 0] ??

i think that would do it
 
SNOOTCHIEBOOCHEE said:
[0 1
1 0] ??

i think that would do it
That's very close but not quite. Note that
[tex]\left[ \begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0\end{array}\right]\times\left[ \begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0\end{array}\right] = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 \\ 0& 1\end{array}\right] = I_2[/tex]
You want;
[tex]\left[ \begin{array}{cc} a & b \\ c & d\end{array}\right]\times\left[ \begin{array}{cc} a & b \\ c & d\end{array}\right] = -\left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 \\ 0& 1\end{array}\right][/tex]
 
  • #10
[0 -1
1 0]


ok got it i think
 
  • #11
SNOOTCHIEBOOCHEE said:
[0 -1
1 0]


ok got it i think
Looks good to me :approve: (Nice name by-the-way :wink:)
 
  • #12
so the answer would be
x [1 0;0 1] + y[0 -1; 1 0] ??


thans jay and silent bob are fantanstci
 
  • #13
Yep, your correct. However, you can represent it as a single matrix thus;

[tex]\left[ \begin{array}{cc} x & -y \\ y & x\end{array}\right][/tex]

Both forms are correct.
 
  • #14
You guys are absolute geniuses and i owe you my life. ty
 
  • #15
Okay, I'll send you my bill!
 

Similar threads

Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
4K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
4K
Replies
2
Views
3K
Replies
19
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
2K