LINEAR ALGEBRA: Consider 2X2 Matrices - What are the subspaces?

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The discussion revolves around identifying which sets of 2-by-2 matrices qualify as subspaces of the vector space of 2-by-2 matrices over the reals, denoted as \(\mathbbm{R}^{2 \times 2}\). Participants explore various conditions applied to the matrices, such as specific entries being zero or relationships between the entries.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants consider the criteria for subspaces, referencing the three rules that must be satisfied: the presence of the zero vector, closure under scalar multiplication, and closure under addition. They discuss specific cases (A) through (E) and question whether certain sets meet these criteria.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that choices (A), (B), and (D) might be subspaces, while (C) is debated due to the nature of determinants. The last choice (E) is generally agreed to violate the subspace rules. There is ongoing exploration of how to apply the rules to demonstrate or refute the subspace status of the sets.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines, focusing on theoretical proofs rather than computational solutions. There is a noted emphasis on using examples and counterexamples to illustrate points regarding the subspace properties.

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Consider 2-by-2 matrices \mathbf{A} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\c & d \\\end{array} \right) \in \mathbbm{R}^{2 X 2}. Which of the following are subspaces of \mathbbm{R}^{2 X 2}?

(A) {A | c = 0}

(B) {A | a + d = 0}

(C) {A | ad - bc = 0}

(D) {A | b = c}

(E) {A | Av = 2v}, where v is some vector in R^2.






I think that all except the last would be subspaces of the 2 X 2 set of matrices. I know that choice (C) is the determinent of the matrix, which is in the subspace of it's own matrix, right?

Also, how would I make a case for the first four choices using the 3 "rules" that determine if a vector is a subspace of another?

(1) {0} must be in the subset for it to be a subset.

(2) if v is in W then a * v is in W for all real numbers a.

(3) if u and v are in W, then u + v is in W.
 
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For (C), you should be able to come up with 2 matrices with zero determinant that add to a matrix with non-zero determinant.

The set (E) obviously violates one of the rules.
 
(C) {A | ad - bc = 0}

Let
\mathbf{U} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\c & d \\\end{array} \right) \in S and
\mathbf{V} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}e & f \\g & h \\\end{array} \right) \in S, where S is the subspace of \mathbbm{R}^{2 X 2} described with (C).
Then, U + V = W has to be in S.
\mathbf{W} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}a+e & b+f \\c+g & d+h \\\end{array} \right) \in S. Further on, (a+e)(d+h)-(c+g)(b+f)=0 implies \frac{ah+ed}{bg-fc}=1, from which we obtain bg \neq fc (1). So, we have shown that W is in the same subspace as U and V just for the matrices U and V such that (1) is true. But, it should be true for every two matrices U and V satisfying only the property stated in (C). Hence, (C) is no subspace.
 
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So, in order to do this "proving" stuff. A person should assign variables (presumably the set of all real numbers) to two of the types of spaces (or matrix m X n, etc.) being questioned as subspaces? Then apply the three rules to see if they are broken?

How, exactly, do we know that the U and V matrices above do not satisfy rule number 3(if u and v are in W, then u + v is in W)?
 
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Radou did a proof by contradiction. Assume what you want to prove and show that it leads to a contradiction.

The one I suggested would be a proof by counterexample.
 
Only (A), (B) and (D) are subspaces?
 
Yeah, you need to show that. Radou basically gave you the template for rule 3: show that for arbitrary U and V in the subset, W = U + V is also in the subset.
 
For example, I can use rule 3 for case (A) like so?:

\mathbf{U} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\0 & d \\\end{array} \right) \in S

\mathbf{V} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}e & f \\0 & h \\\end{array} \right) \in S

\mathbf{W} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}a+e & b+f \\0+0 & d+h \\\end{array} \right) \in S


Does this prove (for rule 3 only) that case (A) is a subspace of R^{2 X 2}?

EDIT:

For rule 2 -

a\,\left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\0 & d \\\end{array} \right) \in S, where the first a is a real number.

is true?
 
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"If v \in W then av \in W for all a \in R."

This is rule 2, how would I go about defineing a vector v that is in W?

\overrightarrow{v}\,=\,v_1,\,v_2,\,...,\,v_n?
 
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VinnyCee said:
For example, I can use rule 3 for case (A) like so?:

\mathbf{U} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\0 & d \\\end{array} \right) \in S

\mathbf{V} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}e & f \\0 & h \\\end{array} \right) \in S

\mathbf{W} =\left( \begin{array}{cc}a+e & b+f \\0+0 & d+h \\\end{array} \right) \in SDoes this prove (for rule 3 only) that case (A) is a subspace of R^{2 X 2}?

Well, simplify everything that can be simplified, and it should be obvious that you have a new element that's a member of the subset.

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For rule 2 -

a\,\left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\0 & d \\\end{array} \right) \in S, where the first a is a real number.

is true?

Well, choose a variable name that's not going to confuse the real number multiplier with one of the matrix elements.

Then...do the matrix arithmetic. That's basically all you do to check rules (2) & (3): do the matrix arithmetic for the particular subspace rule, simplify whatever can be simplified, then check to see if the resulting matrix is a member of the subset according to the definition (which, if it's not obvious by inspection, is just more matrix arithmetic). For rule (1), you just need to check that the 0 matrix is a legal member of the subset.
 
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VinnyCee said:
"If v \in W then av \in W for all a \in R."

This is rule 2, how would I go about defineing a vector v that is in W?

\overrightarrow{v}\,=\,v_1,\,v_2,\,...,\,v_n?

The vectors in this space are 2x2 matrices, so just construct an arbitrary 2x2 matrix like V above.
 

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