Linear Algebra - Help with Planes

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the intersection of three planes in a linear algebra context, specifically focusing on determining constants for intersection conditions and exploring parallelism between planes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to find constants a, b, and c for the planes to intersect at a single point, questioning the role of the determinant. They also seek clarification on the conditions for parallel planes.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest forming the augmented matrix and row reducing it to explore solutions. There is a recognition that if the planes are parallel, it implies no solution exists, or that they share the same normal vector. However, the original poster expresses confusion regarding the concepts of augmented matrices and row reduction, indicating a need for further explanation.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that they are new to the course and have not yet covered certain foundational concepts, which may affect their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Consider three planes P1, P2 and P3 where a, b and c are constants.

Plane 1 : x + 2y − z = 5
Plane 2 : ax + y + z = −2
Plane 3 : bx − 2y + cz = 11

1) Find the constants a, b and c such that the three planes intersect in a single point
2) For which values of d and h are the two planes P1 and P3 parallel?

Homework Equations



All I know is there is a single solution when det does not = 0

And the normal vectors to the planes are:
[1, 2, -1]
[a, 1, 1]
[b, -2, c]

The Attempt at a Solution



How do I start this? I really have no clue what to do for part 1. If there's only a single point of intersection, then the determinant can't equal to 0 right? But I'm stuck as to how I can utilize that to help me solve for the constants..

And for part 2, how do you know when two planes are parallel? Is there an equation for it?

Thanks for any help, I've been kinda stumped on this for a while.
 
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If the planes intersect at a single point then there is a single solution to the augmented matrix, form the augmented matrix and row reduce, you should see the light upon figuring that out.

Edit - if the planes are parallel then that means there is no solution to the system. OR, if they are parallel then they have the same normal vector (or a multiple of it)
 
Clever-Name said:
If the planes intersect at a single point then there is a single solution to the augmented matrix, form the augmented matrix and row reduce, you should see the light upon figuring that out.

Edit - if the planes are parallel then that means there is no solution to the system. OR, if they are parallel then they have the same normal vector (or a multiple of it)

Hey thanks for taking the time to answer. The thing is, I JUST got into this course, and everything is still very new to me. The professor hasn't even ever mentioned what an augmented matrix is or what row reduce means. Do you think you can elaborate a bit? Thanks..
 
mneox said:
Hey thanks for taking the time to answer. The thing is, I JUST got into this course, and everything is still very new to me. The professor hasn't even ever mentioned what an augmented matrix is or what row reduce means. Do you think you can elaborate a bit? Thanks..

That's odd, because in the linear algebra course I'm taking right now, those concepts are introduced in the first week. Your augmented matrix looks like this:

\[<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cccc}<br /> 1 &amp; 2 &amp; -1 &amp; 5 \\ <br /> a &amp; 1 &amp; 1 &amp; -2 \\<br /> b &amp; -2 &amp; c &amp; 11 \end{array}<br /> \right)\]

You might have learned row-reduction under the name Gaussian elimination, perhaps.
 

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