Linear Algebra: Invariant Subspaces

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The problem involves proving or providing a counterexample regarding invariant subspaces in linear algebra. Specifically, it questions whether a subspace U of a finite-dimensional vector space V, which is invariant under every operator on V, must be either the zero subspace or the entire space V.

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  • The original poster considers the possibility of finding a counterexample and reflects on the challenge of demonstrating invariance under every operator. They propose using a one-dimensional subspace as a potential example.
  • Some participants suggest that the original poster may not be able to produce a counterexample and emphasize the need to consider the invariance under all operators.
  • Another participant references textbook information regarding invariant subspaces in specific dimensions and questions whether the book's statement applies to particular operators.
  • Further, a participant discusses constructing a linear transformation that would demonstrate a subspace U is not invariant under that transformation.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, particularly the requirement for U to be invariant under every operator on V. There is also mention of dimensional considerations that may influence the existence of invariant subspaces.

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Homework Statement

Prove or give a counterexample: If U is a subspace of V that is invariant under every operator on V, then U = {0} or U = V. Assume that V is finite dimensional.

The attempt at a solution

I really think that I should be able to produce a counterexample, however even if I find an appropriate subspace, I have NO idea how to show that U is invariant under every operator on V. There are an arbitrary number of them!

One thing I was thinking was use a one dimensional subspace for my U, because then every transformation of a vector u in U would be a constant times u. In other words, T(u) = cu.

Does anyone know if I'm on the right track?
 
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Hint #1: You're not going to be able to produce a counterexample.

Hint #2: Suppose U is a nontrivial subspace of V that's invariant under every operator on V, and let {u_1, ..., u_n} be a basis for U. A linear operator is completely determined by its action on the basis.
 
My textbook states that for operators on complex vector spaces with dimension greater than one, and real vector spaces with dimension greater than two, that there will be invariant subspaces other than {0} and V.

Maybe the book means for a particular operator?
 
It doesn't matter if a particular operator has other invariant subspaces. This problem is asking you to consider subspaces that are invariant under EACH operator.
 
morphism's point: Given [any subspace U of V, of dimension m, 0< m< n= dim V, there exist a basis for V, v_1, v_2, ..., v_n} such that the first m vectors, {v_1, v_2, ..., v_m} form a subspace for U. Now CONSTRUCT a linear transformation on V such that U is NOT invariant under that linear transformation.
 

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