Linear Transformations (or lack thereof)

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The discussion revolves around finding a linear transformation T: V → V, where V is the set of complex numbers viewed as a vector space over the real numbers. The challenge is to identify a transformation that is not complex linear, meaning it does not satisfy the properties of linearity when V is considered as a complex vector space.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definition of complex linearity and its implications for transformations. Questions arise regarding the meaning of viewing complex numbers as a vector space over the reals.
  • Some participants discuss specific examples of transformations, such as the complex conjugate and its properties, while others question the validity of these examples in the context of complex linearity.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the nature of linear transformations. There is an ongoing examination of specific examples and counterexamples, with some participants acknowledging misunderstandings and seeking further clarification.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the distinction between real and complex linearity, as well as the implications of the definitions involved. The original problem statement is reiterated multiple times, indicating a focus on clarity and comprehension.

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Homework Statement


Let V be the set of complex numbers regarded as a vector space over the real numbers R. Find a linear transformation T: V → V which is not complex linear (i.e. not a linear transformation if V is regarded as a vector space over the complex numbers).


Homework Equations



V=R(i)

The Attempt at a Solution


I have a solution. What I need is a better explanation of what complex linear means. Or perhaps a rewording of the problem statement so I might have a better understanding of why my solution is a solution.
 
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hi nateHI! :smile:
nateHI said:
What I need is a better explanation of what complex linear means. Or perhaps a rewording of the problem statement so I might have a better understanding of why my solution is a solution.

f is linear if f(λa + µb) = λf(a) + µf(b) for all scalars λ and µ

so what happens eg if λ = i ? :wink:
 
"... regarded as a vector space over the real numbers R"

What does that mean?
 
I think they mean z = u +iv with (u,v) in RxR.
 
nateHI said:

Homework Statement


Let V be the set of complex numbers regarded as a vector space over the real numbers R. Find a linear transformation T: V → V which is not complex linear (i.e. not a linear transformation if V is regarded as a vector space over the complex numbers).


Homework Equations



V=R(i)

The Attempt at a Solution


I have a solution. What I need is a better explanation of what complex linear means. Or perhaps a rewording of the problem statement so I might have a better understanding of why my solution is a solution.

The complex numbers are a 1-dimensional vector space over themselves, so a complex-linear map [itex]\mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C}[/itex] is a map of the form [itex]z \mapsto az[/itex] for some [itex]a \in \mathbb{C}[/itex], ie. multiplication by a constant.

The map which takes [itex]z = x + iy[/itex] to its complex conjugate [itex]z^{*} = x - iy[/itex] is not of that form (there is no [itex]a \in \mathbb{C}[/itex] such that [itex]z^{*} = az[/itex] for all [itex]z \in \mathbb{C}[/itex]), and so is not complex linear. But it is real linear (it's just [itex](x,y) \mapsto (x, -y)[/itex]).

Therefore the map which takes [itex]z[/itex] to its real part [itex]\frac12 (z + z^{*})[/itex] is not complex linear either.
 
pasmith said:
The map which takes [itex]z = x + iy[/itex] to its complex conjugate [itex]z^{*} = x - iy[/itex] is not of that form (there is no [itex]a \in \mathbb{C}[/itex] such that [itex]z^{*} = az[/itex] for all [itex]z \in \mathbb{C}[/itex]), and so is not complex linear. But it is real linear (it's just [itex](x,y) \mapsto (x, -y)[/itex]).

No not true, take z = i then z* = -i, take a =-1 and you got it.
 
dirk_mec1 said:
No not true, take z = i then z* = -i, take a =-1 and you got it.

Your [itex]a[/itex] must work FOR ALL [itex]z \in \mathbb{C}[/itex]! Finding an [itex]a[/itex] which works for one [itex]z[/itex] is irrelevant!
 
You're right my bad.
 
OK, I get it now. Thanks pasmith and everyone else.
 

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