Liquid Metal Under Applied Voltage

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the behavior of liquid metal droplets when subjected to an applied voltage from a DC source. Participants explore the potential effects on the droplets, including splitting, expansion, and interactions between multiple droplets under electrical influence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the effects on a single droplet of liquid metal when connected to a DC source, questioning whether it would split or expand if the voltage exceeds the surface tension.
  • Another participant suggests that connecting a droplet to a voltage source may create a short circuit, leading to unpredictable outcomes such as burning or boiling.
  • A clarification is made regarding the scenario of two droplets connected to opposite terminals of a voltage source, prompting questions about their response to the applied potential.
  • Concerns are raised about the measurement units of voltage and surface tension, with a request for more precise definitions and context regarding the interaction of these forces.
  • One participant introduces the concept of capacitance between the droplets, suggesting that they may stretch towards each other due to charge buildup, but acknowledges the complexity of modeling this behavior.
  • Another participant expresses gratitude for the explanations provided, indicating that the responses align with their inquiries.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses and questions regarding the behavior of liquid metal droplets under voltage, with no consensus reached on the specific outcomes or mechanisms involved. Multiple competing views remain regarding the effects of voltage on the droplets.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity in definitions and measurements, particularly regarding the relationship between voltage and surface tension. The discussion acknowledges the complexity of modeling the interactions between droplets under electrical influence.

ApplePi314
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Hi guys!

I have a question regarding liquid metals. Suppose you had a droplet of liquid metal in empty space. Take the droplet and connect it to a DC source. What happens if the voltage of the DC source exceeds the surface tension of the liquid metal droplet? Would the droplet split in two? Would it expand?

I'm really curious and appreciate anyone taking the time to answer.

Thanks!
 
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You mean that you connect one side of the voltage source to one side of the droplet, and the other side of the voltage source to the to other side of the droplet? Liquid metal conducts (google for "mercury switch") so you've just created a short circuit. Whatever is the weakest link in the circuit will burn, explode, boil, or do something else exciting.
 
Hey Nugatory! thanks for the reply.

I guess a better example would be two droplets, one connected to the positive terminal of the DC source and the other connected to the negative terminal. I'm trying to figure out how the droplets would respond to the applied potential (Would they split into smaller droplets or expand until the total surface tension matched the voltage? Would they boil?).

Thanks again!
 
ApplePi314 said:
Hey Nugatory! thanks for the reply.

I guess a better example would be two droplets, one connected to the positive terminal of the DC source and the other connected to the negative terminal. I'm trying to figure out how the droplets would respond to the applied potential (Would they split into smaller droplets or expand until the total surface tension matched the voltage? Would they boil?).

Thanks again!

Could you please explain in more detail exactly what your objective?

Voltage is measured in volts obviously. How could volts "match" the dimensional units used for surface tension?

Surface tension measurement are often expressed as dynes-per-centimeter, is the same as surface energy, which is often expressed as ergs per square centimeter (erg/cm2 = dyne cm/cm2 = dyne/cm. A soap film may have a surface tension of 25 dynes/cm. Mercury would be typically in the region of 480 dynes/cm.

For an excellent review of exactly how liquid metals are measured see:
Surface Tension Measurements of Liquid. Metals by the
Quasi-Containerless Pendant Drop Method
Kin F. Man
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, CA 91 109
mN-m-1
http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstream/2014/18292/1/99-1764.pdf

OR, could you be asking about this?

Field-emission electric propulsion (FEEP) is an advanced electrostatic space propulsion concept, a form of ion thruster, that uses liquid metal (usually either caesium, indium or mercury) as a propellant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-emission_electric_propulsion

Thank you in advance for making your search more clear and specific for members here on PF!

Bobbywhy
 
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Hey Bobbywhy! Thanks for the reply.

I apologize if my question is unclear. I have a limited background in physics and am trying to figure out the best way to word it.

So if you have a droplet of liquid, there is a surface tension (a force) associated with that droplet. In introductory physics, I was taught the electronic-hydraulic analogy in which voltage was essentially "electric pressure". What I'm trying to figure out is if you had two droplets of liquid metal, one connected to the positive lead and the other connected to the negative lead of a voltage source (say a battery), how would the droplets respond? Because if you take a droplet of liquid and apply a physical pressure (say blowing air at it), it will respond by deforming, moving, or splitting into smaller droplets.

It may simply be a dumb question brought about by my very, very rudimentary understanding of physics, but I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

Thanks!
 
The two droplets would have a slight capacitance depending on how close together they are. Charge would build up on the sides closest to each other and create an attraction. The droplets would stretch out towards each other. How much they stretch and how much voltage it would take to split the droplets is going to be a difficult problem to model much less solve.

They may not even split. There will necessarily be an adhesive force holding them to your voltage probes, like a drop of water hanging from your finger. The attractive force may overcome the adhesion and simply pull the droplets off of the probes.
 
Thanks Okefenokee, your explanation is exactly what I was I was looking for.

Thanks!
 

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