Load, Deflection, rotation, Designing basic beam?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a basic beam, focusing on aspects such as material selection, cross-sectional shape, dimensions, and the analysis of deflection and rotational displacement characteristics. Participants explore the theoretical and practical considerations involved in beam design, including relevant equations and initial assumptions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the homework question and seeks clarification on how to approach the problem.
  • Another participant explains that the design process involves making initial choices about materials and dimensions, analyzing the structure for deflection and rotation, and adjusting assumptions as necessary.
  • A different participant suggests using a material like steel to find the deflection function and check if the maximum deflection and rotation meet specified limits.
  • Another participant introduces the engineers bending equation and a similar equation for torsion, emphasizing the need to approach the problem from a designer's perspective rather than purely analytical.
  • Concerns are raised about the importance of self-weight deflection in the context of a long span beam design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best approach to the problem, with multiple competing views on how to proceed with the design and analysis of the beam.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various equations and concepts related to beam design, but there are indications of missing assumptions and unresolved steps in the analysis process. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on how to balance design considerations with analytical requirements.

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Students and professionals interested in structural engineering, particularly those focused on beam design and analysis, may find the discussion relevant.

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Homework Statement



The problem is in attached.
Desgining basic beam

Homework Equations



M = E*I(d^2*w/dx^2)
slope = E*I (dw/dy) = integral of E*I(d^2*w/dx) + c1
deflection = E*I * (w) = double integral of E*I(d^2*w/dx) + c1x + c2

ΣM*= 0
ΣFx = 0
ΣFy = 0

Yb = ΣAY / ΣA
I = Σ(I* + Ad^2)i
bending stress = MC / I


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand the question. If someone can clear it up for me that would be nice. If someone can tell me what the question asks for, and how I would attack this problem by telling me the first few steps.
 

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The question is asking you to do a design. That means: making some initial choices of material, cross-sectional shape and dimensions, possibly elevational shape, and end conditions; then, analyse the proposed structure for its deflection and rotational displacement characteristics; then revisit your initial assumptions and adjust as necessary to comply with the limits given. You will need at least an hour, possibly three, to do this properly. I notice that your section on 'relevant equations' doesn't include anything on torsion yet.
 
You would just take a material, say steel for example, and try and find the deflection function for it, see if the max deflection of the beam is 1" and max rotation is 1" ?

Which torque equation would help me?
 
You have probably heard of the engineers bending equation f/y=M/I=E/R. Well. there is a similar equation for torsion t/r=T/J=GA/L where A is the angle of rotation. You can look it up in books, where the notation may be different, but the idea is the same. Your question suggests that you are approaching this from the point of view of an analyst, but what is needed is the hat of a designer - trying things to see if they work (using analysis to evaluate). With such a long span, I would expect self-weight deflection to be just as important as that due to the camera.
 

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