Locate the poles of the response function for an LRC circuit

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The discussion revolves around locating the poles of the response function \(\alpha(\omega)\) for an LRC circuit in the complex plane. The original poster presents the function and expresses uncertainty about the correct approach to finding the poles, particularly whether to treat \(\omega\) as a complex variable or to convert it to another form.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the quadratic formula to the denominator of the function to find the poles but questions the validity of their results. Some participants suggest that the physical interpretation of \(\omega\) as a real number does not limit the analysis of the function in the complex plane. Others raise questions about the relevance of the poles to subsequent parts of the problem, particularly regarding the behavior of integrals along a contour.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made about the poles and their implications for the integral in the next part of the question. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Laplace transforms and parametrization of the contour, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a contour integral that vanishes under certain conditions, which introduces additional complexity to the problem. The original poster is also navigating the transition between different notations used in electrical engineering and physics.

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Homework Statement


Locate the poles of the response function \alpha(\omega) in the complex plane for an LRC circuit.

Homework Equations


\alpha(\omega)=\frac{-i\omega}{L}\frac{1}{\omega_0^2-\omega^2-i\omega\gamma}
\omega_0^2=\frac{1}{CL}
\gamma=\frac{R}{L}

The Attempt at a Solution


So we've been going over how to locate poles and residues with normal functions and this is the first time doing something that is applicable to physics. Normally I'm used to having a function of x and changing this into a function of z and finding the poles that way. I'm not really sure how to start this question whether I should be changing ω to z or whether this is already a complex function. I've tried using the quadratic formula on the denominator in which I get

\frac{-\gamma \pm \sqrt{\gamma^2-4\omega_0^2}}{-2i}

but I do not think this is correct.

Any help would be nice.

Thanks
 
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It looks Ok to me. Why don't you think your answer is correct?

##\omega## in the physical world will be a real number. But the formula you've given for ##\alpha(\omega)## doesn't require ##\omega## to be real.

As to what, if any, physical significance the two poles of the ##\alpha## function have - you'd need to ask an electrical engineer.
 
The reason I think it is wrong is because in the next part of the question it says:

ii) Show that for the contour C illustrated below, the integral of \alpha(\omega)/\omega vanishes along the semicircular part of the contour as R goes to infinite.

I've attached what the contour looks like but in case it didn't work, it's a semicircle in the upper half of the plane and it shows a pole (marked as \omega) along the real positive axis. And the poles I found, if i did them correctly, should be on the imaginary axis.
Snapshot.jpg
 
Are the poles relevant to that next part of the question?

I would have thought the asymptotic shrinking of the integral would be driven by the growth of R, rather than anything to do with the poles. Indeed, if the contour ran into a pole, that would blow up the integral, rather than shrink it.

What is a parametrisation of the points on the contour?
 
I would think at this stage you'd have had the Laplace transform.
So for part (a), substitute s = jω (sorry, we EE's use j instead of i), then manipulate α(s) to look like (something)/(s + a). Then your pole is at s = -a.
As for part (b) the contour usually has σ for the x-axis and jω for the y-axis where s = σ + jω. I'm not quite sure what your plot is supposed to represent.
 

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