Lorentz Factor Explained for Laymen: Twin Paradox

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The discussion revolves around the Twin Paradox in the context of special relativity, specifically focusing on the Lorentz factor and its application in calculating time experienced by traveling twins compared to those remaining on Earth. Participants explore the definitions and implications of the Lorentz factor in relation to time dilation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of the variables in the equation \(\epsilon=\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}\), specifically what \(v\) and \(c\) represent.
  • Another participant confirms that \(v\) is the speed of the traveling twin and \(c\) is the speed of light.
  • A participant references a scenario involving a spaceship traveling at 0.866c to illustrate how the Lorentz factor is applied, questioning the derivation of the value 0.5 for \(\epsilon\).
  • Another participant provides a calculation to derive \(\epsilon = 0.5\) using the given speed, but questions whether they misunderstood the original inquiry.
  • A later reply expresses a light-hearted acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of the variables involved in the Lorentz factor and the calculations related to the Twin Paradox. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the clarity of the initial question and the understanding of the calculations.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the understanding of special relativity and the mathematical steps involved in deriving the Lorentz factor, which may not be fully articulated by all participants.

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I looked up Twin Paradox, and I understand the concept of time in SR, and also understand the Einstein synchronization convention concept, but now there is just something I don't get here:
I looked at twin paradoxes and apparently you must use the Lorentz factor (or it's inverse, anyway) to figure out the time a specific journey would take on the Earth rest frame (or along the lines. Can't put it in words.)
So, the only thing is, what does each letter stand for in :
[tex]\displaystyle\epsilon=\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}[/tex]?

Which I believe is the inverse of the lorentz factor.

Thanks in advance,
Santural : Below the average layman.
 
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Santural said:
So, the only thing is, what does each letter stand for in :
[tex]\displaystyle\epsilon=\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}[/tex]?
Are asking what v and c stand for? v = speed of the traveling twin (or moving frame); c = speed of light.
 
Right! Thats part of what I need. However:
Wikipedia says:
Consider a spaceship traveling from Earth to the nearest star system: a distance d = 4.45 light years away, at a speed v = 0.866c (i.e., 86.6% of the speed of light). The round trip will take t = 2d / v = 10.28 years in Earth time (i.e. everybody on Earth will be 10.28 years older when the ship returns. Those on Earth predict the aging of the travellers during their trip will be reduced by the factor [tex]\epsilon = \sqrt{1 - v^2/c^2}[/tex], the inverse of the Lorentz factor. In this case ε = 0.5 and they expect the travellers to be 0.5×10.28 = 5.14 years older when they return...(goes on and on)
(I added the bold).
What is that epsilon? Where is 0.5 derived from?
 
Santural said:
Where is 0.5 derived from?

By plugging numbers into that formula:

[tex]\epsilon = \sqrt {1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}} = \sqrt {1 - \frac{(0.866c)^2}{c^2}} = \sqrt {1 - 0.866^2} = 0.5[/tex]

Or have I misunderstood your question?
 
...:rolleyes: hehe...um...:-p ...really, just um...hehe...my bad...

I guess I was being a LITTLE dumb there, sorry.
 

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