@weirdoguy I think I got your point. However, I take it more as a personal position than an argument in this discussion.
Although the
problem of distorted graphs is mostly discussed in the context of statistical data and not in the context of mathematical functions, I believe the same principle applies. The
following quote supports your statement that students can handle distorted graphs (i.e. extract data from a graph), but it also points out, that students may not be aware of how a distorted graph can be misleading.
ALTHOUGH MOST MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS HAVE learned how to read and extract information from various types of graphs, it might not be obvious to them how particular graphs can be misleading or inaccurate.
Regarding your comment:
weirdoguy said:
And I, as a teacher, and also my students, are interested in everything, since physics is a very 'holistic' science. In Poland SR is tought in the very end of 4-year high school, and by then everyone has seen tons of graphs with different scalings. Frankly, it's the first time I see someone has a problem with this, so I don't necesarrily see at the moment how to respond other than that.
Also, intuition is not only built on graphs. It is built by solving tons of different problems. Graphs can help, but they are not the very basis.
This thread is not about physics in general, not even about special relativity in its entirety. It is about a very specific aspect of teaching special relativity: The question, of whether the relation between relative speed and relativistic effects is well represented by the graphs ##\beta /\gamma## as they can be found in many textbooks. So, you can put all your energy into all other areas of physics and special relativity which you find more rewarding. However, in this thread, this is the only thing that matters.
I agree with you, that intuition is not only built on graphs. However, if graphs are present, to some extent they influence intuition. So I would accept any arguments that graphs are not necessary and quite a number of textbooks come without graphs of ##\gamma##. But if graphs are used, I think they should be well-designed.
That this is the first time, someone has brought this point to your attention should rather be an argument to consider this question at least once. You can of course just carry on as usual (and put your effort into arguing why this need not be considered).
For me personally, the distorted graphs pose no problem. I am neither teaching SR nor writing textbooks about it. To me, this is just a curiosity I like to think about. So I am in fact far less invested in this topic than you are as a teacher.
@robphy The question was aimed at everybody. So Thank you for your response.
robphy said:
As @weirdoguy says, it's not a problem since you are just looking at a functional dependence,
which (as I was hinting above) is a very narrow (myoptic) view of special relativity,
where relativistic quantities are often regarded as "factors" or "corrections".
But I see the graphs not so much as a representation of some functional (i.e. mathematical) dependence. I see them as the representation of some underlying fundamental relation between relative speed and the magnitude of relativistic effects. Of course, this relationship is expressed also in its mathematical formulation (i.e. the function). However, this relation encoded in the formulation of the function is not accessible to all (students) in the same way. This is why I think the undistorted representation matters.
I also don't see ##\gamma## as a correction factor. It does not correct, there is nothing wrong to correct. But this might be nit-picking on words.
@vela I hope I have answered your question already. In fact I don't want to convey any intuition, I am rather wondering what intuition distorted graphs instil in others (and reflect what intuition they had originally instilled in me). And of course I think what would be a better intuition.
I think the intuition that is usually conveyed with the above graphs, is that there is a distinction between low (non-relativistic) speeds and high (relativistic) speeds. However, I think it would be much better to convey an intuition, that relativistc effects continuously increase, that even if they are not detectable, they also apply to us. So not: "Look, here everything is fine and over there everything is behaving weird."
To give an obvious example: The below diagram shows graphs for ##y=x##, ##y=x^2## and ##1=x^2+y^2##. I think nobody would argue, that the graphical representation of these equations is helpful to give onlookers a good idea about what these equations mean.
Und just to show what we are talking about, the following picture shows a distorted and undistorted graph of ##\gamma(\beta)##. The left graph tells the usual story: Nothing happens at low speed before ##\gamma## (suddenly) explodes (e.g. Rindler writes: Note its slow initial increase and its asymptote at v = c) . In the right graph, the increase appears more continuous and less abrupt. You may argue, that the left graph is better to read. In this case, I say that reading a value from a graph that can only be constructed by calculating some values and interpolating the graph is a futile exercise.