Low rpm motor and heating element in 250 W

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of operating a heating coil that can reach temperatures of 300°C alongside a low RPM DC motor, all within a power limit of 250 W. The scope includes theoretical considerations of power distribution, heating loads, and practical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that it is possible to run both a heating coil and a low RPM motor under 250 W, emphasizing the importance of power management.
  • One participant mentions that a soldering iron operates at only 40 watts, suggesting that heating load is a critical factor in determining feasibility.
  • Another participant highlights that the environment (e.g., air vs. water) affects the maximum achievable temperature of a heating element.
  • A later reply questions the framing of the original inquiry, suggesting that the question could be more open-ended regarding what can be achieved with 250 W, a motor, and a heating coil.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between power loss, equilibrium temperature, and the size of the object, with an example of human body heat radiation provided.
  • Participants emphasize the need for specific details about the heating requirements and motor torque to provide a more accurate assessment of power needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the original question, with multiple competing views on the feasibility and implications of running both devices under the specified power limit.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific details about the heating coil's design, the motor's torque requirements, and the environmental conditions affecting performance. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of power distribution and heating efficiency.

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Individuals interested in electrical engineering, thermodynamics, or practical applications involving motors and heating elements may find this discussion relevant.

Arjun_Arasan
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i wanted to know if it's possible to run a heating coil which reaches some 300 C and a dc motor of low rpm of some 10 or so...and all this under 250 W??
 
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Yes, both are very much possible. It's a matter of power. You can reach thousands of degrees with low power, a standard flash light bulb does exactly that.
If you tell us what you're wanting to do we can help more.
 
As a point of reference, my soldering iron uses only 40 watts.

But you must ask about heating load, not just the temperature.

A heater in air can glow white hot, but put it in water and it can't warm to more than 100C.
 
The filament in a lightbulb gets quite hot.
 
Arjun_Arasan said:
i wanted to know if it's possible to run a heating coil which reaches some 300 C and a dc motor of low rpm of some 10 or so...and all this under 250 W??
When things have settled down into equilibrium, the temperature of your device produces the same amount of power loss to the surroundings as the power being supplied. For the same amount of dissipated power, a small object will get hotter than a large object because its surface area will be smaller.
A human body is radiating several hundred Watts but the surface temperature is only around 30°C - because of radiation of heat and sweating.
 
Kind of a meaningless question as framed. Could just as easily be "What can one do with 250 watts, a motor, and a heating coil ?"
You can drive a little motor at 1000 rpm and a tiny heating coil to 1000C with just a few watts.

If you figure out how much power your heater needs and how much power your motor needs, then you have your answer.

If you tell us what you are trying to do (what you want to heat, how much torque your motor needs) then we can help to calculate the power required to accomplish the tasks.
 

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