Magnetic field of running current in a wire

In summary: If that is so, then why the arrows in the field? Why is there a counter-clockwise turning?The arrows indicate the direction of the field.In summary, the magnetic field lines around a wire are circular because that's the way it is.
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yrjosmiel
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Why are they circular?
You know, like this:
mag-strt-wire-diag.jpg

Why not straight toward the wire?
 
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yrjosmiel said:
Why are they circular?
You know, like this:
View attachment 209712
Why not straight toward the wire?
Because that's the way it is. Electric fields can radiate outwards from a point or line but the Magnetic Lines of Force have no beginning or end (even in a bar magnet, the lines can be regarded as running through the metal between the two poles.
You cannot have an isolated magnetic pole but to understand why, you need to get into and be familiar with Maxwell's Equations. I don't know of a simple explanation.
 
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Hint: Why do contour lines on a map go in circles around a hill and not straight up and down the slope?
 
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Due to the symmetry of the arrangement I think the circular shapes are predictable.
 
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Dadface said:
Due to the symmetry of the arrangement I think the circular shapes are predictable.

Symmetry alone wouldn't rule out radial lines.
 
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pixel said:
Symmetry alone wouldn't rule out radial lines.
Symmetry plus the other factors.
 
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CWatters said:
Hint: Why do contour lines on a map go in circles around a hill and not straight up and down the slope?
To represent magnitude?
If that is so, then why the arrows in the field? Why is there a counter-clockwise turning?
 
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Yes. As with contour lines the closer they are together the stronger the field. The arrows indicate the direction of the field.

They point from north to south but north and south poles are just names we allocated years ago. Just as we defined positive current as electricity flowing from positive to negative terminals on a battery.

See also Fleming rules.
 
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CWatters said:
They point from north to south but north and south poles are just names we allocated years ago. Just as we defined positive current as electricity flowing from positive to negative terminals on a battery.
Where exactly is the "north" and the "south" in the wire?
 
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yrjosmiel said:
Why are they circular?
You know, like this:
View attachment 209712
Why not straight toward the wire?
Good question!

Basically, the magnetic field lines are circular because the wire is circular.

For a typical straight circular wire carrying current, the magnetic field is generated to be perpendicular to the direction of the current.

Around a circular wire, the magnetic field lines will be concentric circles with the current perpendicular to the planes of the circles.

But, it doesn’t always have to be this way! You could have a conductor that has a rectangular cross section, for example, and then determining the shape of the magnetic field lines can get very “interesting”. See this paper for details.
 
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yrjosmiel said:
Where exactly is the "north" and the "south" in the wire?

North and South are not in the wire.

Magnetic field lines do not have a "start" or an "end" that you call north or south. The just have a direction from North to South. Even for a bar magnet the magnetic field lines go through the magnet itself.

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mag-strt-wire-diag.jpg
 
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I would like to add a bit more detail for the case of the case of the straight wire. The circular field lines we see are idealised and take into account the straight section of wire only. They do not take into account the field from other places.

To actually plot the field we have to drive a current through the wire and to do that requires a circuit with a power supply and one or more connecting wires. In other words the actual field we observe in a plane normal to the wire, is not due to the straight section of wire only but is due to the circuit loop.

I like to think of the loop as a mini solenoid with the the poles very close to each other and one at each end of the loop. The attached diagram which is also idealised shows the field due to a circular loop.
 

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yrjosmiel said:
To represent magnitude?
If that is so, then why the arrows in the field? Why is there a counter-clockwise turning?

My first question would be: why does the image say 'lines clockwise in direction of current', while the magnetic field lines around a
wire are always counterclockwise to the direction of current...? The image is wrong (or at least, the text inside it)
 
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If you look downwards it's counter clockwise but if you look "in the direction of the current" it is clockwise.
 
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CWatters said:
If you look downwards it's counter clockwise but if you look "in the direction of the current" it is clockwise.

No matter how I look at it, it remains counterclockwise.
 
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Look at it from underneath.

mag-strt-wire-diag.jpg
 
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yrjosmiel said:
Why are they circular?
You know, like this:
View attachment 209712
Why not straight toward the wire?

This is just because the nature creates magnetic field in this way.

I think you should rather ask about that law of nature which dictates the magnetic field to be so.

Well, there are four equations in Electrodynamics known as Maxwell's equations. Those equations describe the 'behaviour' of electric and magnetic filed. Using those you can easily find out the magnetic filed created by a straight current carrying wire.
 

1. What is the magnetic field of running current in a wire?

The magnetic field of running current in a wire refers to the region of space around a wire where a magnetic force can be detected. This force is created by the movement of electrons in the wire, which creates a magnetic field that can interact with other magnetic materials.

2. How is the magnetic field of running current in a wire measured?

The strength of the magnetic field in a wire can be measured using a device called a gaussmeter. This device uses a small probe to detect the magnetic field and displays the results on a digital or analog scale. The units of measurement for magnetic field are typically expressed in tesla (T) or gauss (G).

3. How does the direction of the current affect the magnetic field in a wire?

The direction of the current in a wire determines the direction of the magnetic field around the wire. The right-hand rule can be used to determine the direction of the magnetic field, where the thumb points in the direction of the current and the curled fingers indicate the direction of the magnetic field.

4. Can the strength of the magnetic field in a wire be changed?

Yes, the strength of the magnetic field in a wire can be changed by altering the current or the distance from the wire. Increasing the current or decreasing the distance from the wire will result in a stronger magnetic field, while decreasing the current or increasing the distance will result in a weaker magnetic field.

5. What are some practical applications of the magnetic field of running current in a wire?

The magnetic field of running current in a wire has many practical applications. It is used in generators and motors to convert electrical energy into mechanical energy. It is also used in devices such as speakers and headphones to convert electrical signals into sound waves. Additionally, magnetic fields are used in medical imaging techniques such as MRI to create detailed images of the body's internal structures.

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