Magnetic Fields - Extending Concepts

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems related to magnetic fields and energy. The first problem involves calculating the velocity of a proton accelerated through a potential difference, while the second problem concerns finding the radius of a proton's path in a magnetic field given its energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between potential difference and energy, with some questioning the definitions and implications of these concepts. There are attempts to connect the equations involving magnetic fields and energy, with references to specific formulas and variables.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively seeking clarification on key concepts such as potential difference and energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between charge, potential difference, and energy, but there is a lack of consensus on how to approach the problems. The discussion reflects a mix of confusion and attempts to understand the underlying physics.

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There are indications of frustration due to perceived gaps in instruction and understanding of fundamental concepts, which may be affecting participants' ability to engage with the problems effectively.

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Hi, I have 2 extremely hard questions. Any help would be appreciated so much! :)

1. Starting from a speed of 0 m/s, a proton is accelerated through a potential difference of 32000 V. What is the proton's velocity?

2. Is there a formula that I should use to solve for this problem?

3. Initial Velocity = 0 m/s? What is potential difference?

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1. The energy of a proton moving through a magnetic field of intensity 0.20 T is 4.4x10^-15 J. What is the radius of the proton's path if it moves in a direction that is always perpendicular to the field?

2. I think that I have to use Bqv = (mv^2)/r to solve for r?

3. B = 0.20 T. I don't know what the 4.4x10^-15 J designates.
 
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Since you did not post an attempt, I will give you an idea to think about. Think about energy and/or the law of conservation of energy.
 
i'm sorry that i didn't post an attempt, but i have no idea where to start with attempting this. my teacher is dumb! she gave us the chapter test, and didn't tell us anything else. we're supposed to teach ourselves the whole chapter?! i got all of them except for these 2. it's so tedius and i don't understand what the law of conservation of energy will do to help me solve this?
 
Here is some more hints:

Potential difference = voltage, and the definition of voltage is...?

for the second problem, it looks right to me, but you're missing velocity and you have energy...so which equation uses both?
 
i still don't understand what you are trying to get me to understand about potential differnce or voltage or anything. It's nowhere in the chapter.

And for the second one, would it be B=F/IL, because that's the only other equation i know. :( I hate this. Why don't I get it, can you please just tel me so I can learn instead of making me try to figure it out when I don't have anything to figure it out with or no understanding to understand your "hints?"
 
krwilliams said:
i still don't understand what you are trying to get me to understand about potential differnce or voltage or anything. It's nowhere in the chapter.

And for the second one, would it be B=F/IL, because that's the only other equation i know. :( I hate this. Why don't I get it, can you please just tel me so I can learn instead of making me try to figure it out when I don't have anything to figure it out with or no understanding to understand your "hints?"


Do you know the charge of a proton? Given charge and potential difference can you find energy?
 
krwilliams said:
Why don't I get it, can you please just tel me so I can learn instead of making me try to figure it out when I don't have anything to figure it out with or no understanding to understand your "hints?"
Actually if someone just told you, you wouldn't learn ;-) I know it may not seem that way, but being given vague hints and going through the process of figuring out the problem on your own is by far the best (some would say the only) way to really learn the material. And yes, it does involve a lot of banging your head against the wall (hopefully only figuratively though).

From some of the questions you've been asking, I wonder whether you even know what basic concepts like voltage and energy are. If you don't, tell us! It does nobody any good for you to be getting hints that are above your level.
 

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