Magnetic force does no work. OR does it?

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The discussion centers on the concept that magnetic force does not perform work on moving charged particles, as it does not alter their kinetic energy but only changes their trajectory. However, a scenario involving a U-shaped wire loop and a movable metal bar raises questions about this principle, as moving the bar generates an induced emf and current due to the magnetic field. Participants clarify that while the magnetic force appears to set charges in motion, it is actually transferring kinetic energy from the moving bar to the charges rather than doing work itself. This leads to the conclusion that the magnetic field acts as a medium for energy transfer rather than a source of work. The conversation highlights the nuanced relationship between magnetic forces and energy dynamics in electrical systems.
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Hello Forum,

it is well known that the magnetic force |F_mag|= q v B sin(theta) does no work on a moving charge particles, i.e. it does not increase or decrease its kinetic energy. It only changes its trajectory.

However, in the examples of a U shaped wire loop with a movable metal bar that is free to slide, if we move the bar with velocity v while the loop is inside a magnetic field B, an induced emf= vBL is generated. It is said that the induced current (charges in motion) is due to the magnetic force...that seems an inconsistency: the charges are now set into motion by F_mag...So F_mag does work on them...or doesn't?

thanks,
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The metal bar will slow down, the magnetic field is simply transferring the kinetic energy of the moving bar into the kinetic energy of the charges.
 
Hi Matterwave

so your point is that the magnetic force is not actually doing the work...it is just transferring it? Is the magnetic field kind of acting as a proxy you mean?
 
Sort of I guess. It's just transferring one kinetic energy into another.
 
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