Magnetic Force of identical shaped box bar magnets

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The discussion revolves around understanding how the magnetic force of identical box bar magnets weakens with distance. Participants clarify that the magnetic field does indeed weaken as distance increases, which can be expressed mathematically using the Biot-Savart law or Ampere's law, indicating an inverse relationship with distance. There is confusion about the concept of a magnetic field being consistent, and the need for specific formulas to calculate the force between magnets is emphasized. The conversation also touches on the significance of Tesla ratings for magnets, particularly for Neodymium magnets. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of calculating magnetic forces and the importance of understanding the underlying physics.
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I am having a problem with my understanding. I could be incorrect, but I think that the magnetic field emitted from a magnet is consistent and doesn't weaken at points further away. Then could someone explain how magnet force weakens with distance. I would also like to know the math so here is a problem I created.

Say I have two identical shaped box bar magnets with dimensions (l,w,d) and mass m, and magnetic field b/

The face of w*d is the side that is directed at each magnet. (ie wxd of magnet_a faces w*d of magnet_b)

Variable x is the distance between the two magnets.

So, how can I figure the forces at x.Sorry, I accidently put this in wrong forum
 
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Take a refrigerator magnet and hold it 10 meters from a refrigerator. Is there much force? That should tell you something qualitative about the force vs. distance.

There is no such thing as a "bar magnet with magnetic field b" so the second part has no answer.
 
@Vanadium you are no help. I didn't say if magnets force get weaker I said how does it.

Also then, why are magnets rated in Teslas. Such as Neodymium which is 1.2-1.6 Tesla at poles.
 
dm164 said:
@Vanadium you are no help. I didn't say if magnets force get weaker I said how does it.

dm164 said:
I think that the magnetic field emitted from a magnet is consistent and doesn't weaken at points further away

When you make up your mind, we can talk.
 
dm164 said:
Then could someone explain how magnet force weakens with distance. I would also like to know the math so here is a problem I created.
Use the Biot-Savart law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot_savart) or Ampere's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampere_law) to express the magnetic field as fuction of distance, you will find that the magnetic field is inversely proportional to distance.

To find the magnetic force, you will then need to use the Lorentz force applied on a charged particle moving in a magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force).
 
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Bio Savart works with a moving charge, but I don't know the speed the electrons. What formulas can be used to determine the repelling or acting force of magnet. And what information do I need about a magnet's strength that will help me.
 
dm164 said:
Bio Savart works with a moving charge, but I don't know the speed the electrons. What formulas can be used to determine the repelling or acting force of magnet. And what information do I need about a magnet's strength that will help me.

Wow! Your problem is now getting serious but check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field
 
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