Magnetic quantum number and spin

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the differences between the magnetic quantum number and spin, particularly in the context of their roles in the magnetic properties of subatomic particles. Participants explore theoretical concepts related to quantum mechanics and angular momentum.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that spin is the intrinsic angular momentum of a particle, while the magnetic quantum number relates to the angular momentum of a bound electron around the nucleus.
  • It is noted that the magnetic quantum number is associated with the quantized component of angular momentum along one axis, while the total angular momentum is described by another quantum number.
  • A participant mentions a video that discusses contributions to magnetism from both the angular momentum about the nucleus and intrinsic angular momentum (spin), questioning whether references to magnetism from angular momentum specifically refer to the magnetic quantum number.
  • Another participant generally agrees that discussions about magnetism from angular momentum often relate to the magnetic quantum number but cautions against conflating this with the magnetic moment of the nucleus and highlights the potential for inconsistent terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the definitions of spin and magnetic quantum number, but there is uncertainty regarding the terminology used in discussions about magnetism and the context in which these terms are applied.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of definitions and the context in which terms are used, which may lead to confusion in discussions about magnetic properties.

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Hi, please could someone provide me with an explanation of the differences between the magnetic quantum number and the spin. I thought that the magnetism of an electron/fermion comes from its intrinsic quantum angular momentum (i.e. its quantum spin) which was evidenced by the Stern–Gerlach experiment. So what then does the magnetic quantum number represent and what does it have to do with the magnetic properties of a subatomic particle? Thanks
 
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Freddy86 said:
Hi, please could someone provide me with an explanation of the differences between the magnetic quantum number and the spin. I thought that the magnetism of an electron/fermion comes from its intrinsic quantum angular momentum (i.e. its quantum spin) which was evidenced by the Stern–Gerlach experiment. So what then does the magnetic quantum number represent and what does it have to do with the magnetic properties of a subatomic particle? Thanks

Spin is the intrinsic angular momentum of the particle while the ##m## quantum number of a bound electron comes from its angular momentum about the nucleus. That angular momentum actually shows up in two of the quantum numbers: ##l## is the quantized magnitude of the "orbital" angular momentum vector, and ##m## is the quantized component of that vector along one axis.

(I put the word "orbital" in scare-quotes, because even though that's what we call we all know that the electron isn't really a little tiny ball going in orbit around the nucleus).
 
Nugatory said:
Spin is the intrinsic angular momentum of the particle while the ##m## quantum number of a bound electron comes from its angular momentum about the nucleus. That angular momentum actually shows up in two of the quantum numbers: ##l## is the quantized magnitude of the "orbital" angular momentum vector, and ##m## is the quantized component of that vector along one axis.

(I put the word "orbital" in scare-quotes, because even though that's what we call we all know that the electron isn't really a little tiny ball going in orbit around the nucleus).

Thanks for your reply. So I just found a really good video about magnetism in an atom () which says there is a contribution from the angular momentum about the nucleus (although it usually cancels out) and an intrinsic angular momentum (spin). So when people talk about the magnetism that comes form the angular momentum about the nucleus are they explicitly referring to magnetic quantum number (m).
 
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Freddy86 said:
So when people talk about the magnetism that comes from the angular momentum about the nucleus are they explicitly referring to magnetic quantum number (m).

Generally, yes... But don't confuse that with the (much smaller) magnetic moment of the nucleus itself, and be careful about the context, as people aren't always consistent and careful in their use of words.
 
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