Magnitude and direction of magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude and direction of the magnetic field produced by two parallel wires carrying current. The original poster attempts to apply the formula for the magnetic field and is uncertain about the correct approach to combine the fields from both wires at a specific point.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the magnetic field formula and whether to sum the contributions from both wires. Questions arise regarding the use of the right-hand rule to determine the direction of the magnetic fields and how to define the coordinate system for the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the need to consider the direction of each magnetic field and how to represent the resultant vector. There is an exploration of different conventions for defining positive directions in the coordinate system, and participants are engaging in clarifying their reasoning and assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of defining the coordinate system clearly and discuss the implications of choosing different positive directions for the magnetic field. There is also a mention of the need to express the final answer in terms of both magnitude and direction.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



B = [itex]\frac{μI}{2πr}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



B = [itex]\frac{μ(12)}{2π(0.4m)}[/itex] - [itex]\frac{μ(12)}{2π(0.1)}[/itex]

B = -1.8 x 10-5I'm not sure if I am doing this correctly, am I supposed to add up the magnetic fields produced by both wires like this?

Thanks for helping!
 
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Yes, add up the magnetic fields produced by each wire at location A. The directions of the individual fields is determined by the right-hand-rule for currents and fields.

If you apply the right-hand-rule, what's the direction of the field produced by I1 at A? How about I2?
 
Biosyn said:

Homework Statement



http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg37/scaled.php?server=37&filename=physicsh.jpg&res=medium


Homework Equations



B = [itex]\frac{μI}{2πr}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



B = [itex]\frac{μ(12)}{2π(0.4m)}[/itex] - [itex]\frac{μ(12)}{2π(0.1)}[/itex]

B = -1.8 x 10-5


I'm not sure if I am doing this correctly, am I supposed to add up the magnetic fields produced by both wires like this?

Thanks for helping!

Looks pretty close. But you should define your coordinate system (x,y,z directions), and be sure the signs in your equation match the coordinate system. Use the right-hand rule to determine the direction of the B field at that point, based on each of the two currents (your equation should have unit vectors multiplying each of the two B-field components, so that your answer is a vector). The problem asks for a magnitude and direction of the resultant B-field.
 
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The direction of the magnetic field at point A by I1 is downward. And the direction of the magnetic field by I2 is upward.

My thoughts:
So,..since I chose the downward direction to be positive, and the answer I got was negative, that means the direction of the resultant magnetic field is upward? Thanks for the help guys!
 
Biosyn said:
The direction of the magnetic field at point A by I1 is downward. And the direction of the magnetic field by I2 is upward.

My thoughts:
So,..since I chose the downward direction to be positive, and the answer I got was negative, that means the direction of the resultant magnetic field is upward?


Thanks for the help guys!

The resultant does indeed point upward, since the closer wire's B-field contribution will dominate.

Why did you choose downward as positive? That's fine if you specify that in your answer, but it would be more traditional to choose (x,y,z) on the paper as (pointing East on the paper, pointing North on the paper, pointing out of the paper up at you).
 
berkeman said:
The resultant does indeed point upward, since the closer wire's B-field contribution will dominate.

Why did you choose downward as positive? That's fine if you specify that in your answer, but it would be more traditional to choose (x,y,z) on the paper as (pointing East on the paper, pointing North on the paper, pointing out of the paper up at you).

Would the answer still be correct if I said the magnitude was + 1.8 x 10-5 T and directed out of the page. Or does it have to be negative.
 
Biosyn said:
Would the answer still be correct if I said the magnitude was + 1.8 x 10-5 T and directed out of the page. Or does it have to be negative.

Yes, that would be a correct way to say it.
 

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