Magnitude of Complex voltage vs Real Part

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the distinction between plotting the magnitude of a complex voltage function and its real part. The consensus is that the task requires plotting the real part, which is the term without the imaginary unit (j), rather than the magnitude (modulus) of the complex function. This is supported by the relationship between AC voltage and complex voltage, where the real part corresponds to the physical voltage output. The use of phasors, represented as \(\widetilde{V} = V_0 e^{i\phi}\), simplifies the analysis of AC signals.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of complex numbers and their representation in the complex plane.
  • Familiarity with AC voltage equations, specifically \(v(t) = V_0 \cos(\omega t + \phi)\).
  • Knowledge of Euler's formula for complex exponentials.
  • Basic concepts of phasors and their application in electrical engineering.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the properties of complex numbers and their geometric interpretations in the complex plane.
  • Learn about AC circuit analysis using phasors and how to convert between time-domain and frequency-domain representations.
  • Explore the application of Euler's formula in simplifying sinusoidal functions.
  • Investigate the implications of using real parts versus magnitudes in electrical engineering contexts.
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Electrical engineers, students studying circuit analysis, and anyone involved in AC signal processing will benefit from this discussion.

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Homework Statement


I have been asked to plot the "magnitude" of a function for V_out of a circuit. It has an imaginary component. I know I need to plot the physical, real portion. But I do not understand if this means the magnitude (modulus) of this complex function, or just the real part. The function has two terms, one of which is real, the other imaginary. By plotting the "real part" I mean, just plotting the term that does not contain the imaginary unit (j).

In terms of the complex plane. Should I be plotting the magnitude of the line, or just it's projection onto the real axis?

Thank you

Homework Equations



a+bi=z
sqrt(a^2+b^2)=Magnitude(z)


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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teroenza said:

Homework Statement


I have been asked to plot the "magnitude" of a function for V_out of a circuit. It has an imaginary component. I know I need to plot the physical, real portion. But I do not understand if this means the magnitude (modulus) of this complex function, or just the real part. The function has two terms, one of which is real, the other imaginary. By plotting the "real part" I mean, just plotting the term that does not contain the imaginary unit (j).

In terms of the complex plane. Should I be plotting the magnitude of the line, or just it's projection onto the real axis?

Thank you

Homework Equations



a+bi=z
sqrt(a^2+b^2)=Magnitude(z)

The Attempt at a Solution


Most probably they want the real part, not the modulus. The reasoning is as follows. For some AC voltagev(t) = V_0 \cos(\omega t + \phi)we typically define a complex voltage: V(t) = V_0e^{i(\omega t + \phi)}such that\Re[V(t)] = v(t)where \Re denotes the real part. You can verify for yourself that this is true using the Euler equation for complex exponentials. The reason for doing this is because complex exponentials are much easier to work with than sinusoids, and a lot of algebraic manipulations become much simpler. Furthermore, a vector in the complex plane is also a natural way of thinking of an AC signal. To see this, rewrite the equation asV(t) = \widetilde{V}e^{i\omega t}where\widetilde{V} = V_0e^{i\phi}So this complex amplitude, which consists of two real numbers (a magnitude and a phase) is just like a sinusoid, which has an amplitude and a phase. Those two numbers together contain all the information you need to know (the amplitude and the phase) to fully represent that AC signal (assuming that the frequency is a given). This complex voltage \widetilde{V} is called a "phasor" (from "phased vector"), and engineers also sometimes use the notation \widetilde{V} = V_0 \angle \phi to represent phasors.
 
You were correct, that is what they desired. Thank you very much.
 

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