Majorana Mass Plot: Normal & Inverted Hierarchy

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The discussion revolves around the Majorana mass as a function of the lightest neutrino, specifically comparing normal and inverted hierarchy scenarios. Participants explore the implications of the PMNS matrix values and the role of the CP-violating phase in the calculations of Majorana mass.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for Majorana mass and expresses confusion regarding the downward branching observed in the normal hierarchy.
  • Another participant questions the assumptions made about the CP-violating phase and suggests varying it to explore its effects.
  • A participant clarifies that the phase appears in the ##U_{e3}## term of the PMNS matrix and discusses its impact on the squared terms in the formula for ##m_{\beta\beta}##.
  • It is noted that squaring a complex number doubles the phase rather than eliminating it, which could lead to cancellations under certain conditions.
  • One participant mentions that in the normal hierarchy, a small negative contribution from the heavy neutrino can lead to cancellation, while in the inverted hierarchy, the presence of two heavy masses prevents this cancellation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of the CP-violating phase and its effects on the Majorana mass calculations. There is no consensus on the reasons behind the observed behaviors in the normal versus inverted hierarchy cases.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific values from the PMNS matrix and the implications of varying the CP-violating phase, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions or the mathematical steps involved in the analysis.

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Hello! In the attached plot, we have the Majorana mass as a function of the lightest neutrino for the normal (m1<m2<m3) and inverted (m3<m1<m2) hierarchy. Plugging in the values from the PMNS matrix in the formula for Majorana mass, I get something of the form: ##m_{\beta\beta} = 0.7m_1+0.25m_2+0.05m_3##. I am not sure I understand why do we have that downward branching for the normal hierarchy. Can someone explain it to me? Thank you!
 

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What did you assume for the phase and did you try varying that a bit?
 
mfb said:
What did you assume for the phase and did you try varying that a bit?
Thank you for your reply. For the angles I used the Wikipedia values. By phase I assume you mean the ##\delta_{CP}## parameter, right? If I understand it correctly, the formula for ##m_{\beta\beta}## contains only the first line of the PMNS matrix i.e. ##U_{e1}##, ##U_{e2}## and ##U_{e3}##. The phase appears only in ##U_{e3}##, but upon squaring that would cancel, wouldn't it? Is there another place where the phase appears?
 
Squaring a complex number doesn't make the phase disappear, it just doubles the phase.
##m_{\beta\beta}## is the magnitude of the total complex sum, here is the formula taking this into account. An angle between 225 and 315 degrees (and between 45 and 135 degrees) leads to a square that has a negative real component.
 
mfb said:
Squaring a complex number doesn't make the phase disappear, it just doubles the phase.
##m_{\beta\beta}## is the magnitude of the total complex sum, here is the formula taking this into account. An angle between 225 and 315 degrees (and between 45 and 135 degrees) leads to a square that has a negative real component.
Oh, I assumed that by squaring they meant ##aa^*##, now it makes more sense. So that phase leads to some sort of cancellation? It is still not clear to me why it is just in that mass range, and why it is not there at all in the inverted hierarchy case.
 
You can plug in numbers and calculate.

In the normal order a small negative contribution from the heavy neutrino can cancel the rest. In the inverted order case you have two heavy masses and don't get that cancellation.
 

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