Marx Generator Capacitance and Charge Storing Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the functionality of Marx generators, specifically focusing on their ability to store charge rather than discharge it. Participants explore the mechanics of voltage multiplication through cascading capacitor discharges and the role of the final components in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the operation of Marx generators, noting that they multiply voltage by cascading capacitor discharges, leading to a final voltage of n x Vinit.
  • Another participant clarifies that the final pairs of spheres in a Marx generator function as a switch (spark gap) rather than capacitors, allowing for discharge through a load.
  • A later reply suggests that it is possible for a Marx generator to store charge instead of discharging, provided that adequate switching and insulation are in place.
  • A participant expresses a desire for further resources on Marx generators, indicating a need for more comprehensive information beyond online searches.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether Marx generators can effectively store charge without discharging, as participants present differing views on the function of the final components and the feasibility of charge storage.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of using different components (e.g., parallel plates versus spark gaps) and the conditions required for charge storage, but do not resolve the technical details or assumptions involved.

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Individuals interested in high-voltage engineering, electrical engineering students, and those researching voltage multiplication techniques may find this discussion relevant.

JAlexander
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Hello,

I have had a question on my mind that a generic google search has so far been unable to answer for me. I know that marx generators multiple voltage by cascading capacitor discharges so that you get a final voltage of n x Vinit - where n is number of capacitors and Vinit is your initial voltage.

In all videos and discussions I have seen, that final voltage gets discharged across the final capacitors - implying that just as the initial capacitors discharged, the final capacitors must also discharge in like manner.

My question is, if you did not want a final discharge, but instead wanted to store charge, is a marx generator capable of doing this? Or must the final capacitors discharge after cascading through the initial capacitors?

In other words, If I have two parallel plates rather than the little balls that you see for the final capacitors, and my final voltage at the end of n x Vint equals 20KV, can those parallel plates store the charge or no?
 
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I think you mistake the purpose of the pairs of spheres. These are not capacitors, but a switch. The generator charges the capacitors in parallel, then these are connected in series across the load via the pair of balls. These balls form a spark gap. One if them might be attached to a swing arm or some other device, used to enable an arc to form between them. This arc then discharges the series connected capacitors through the load. The nonlinear properties of the arc help to shape the waveform if the discharge.
The spark gap switch is used because a regular switch would be damaged by the high violtages and currents involved in the discharge.
 
JAlexander said:
My question is, if you did not want a final discharge, but instead wanted to store charge, is a marx generator capable of doing this?

Yes it is (if you have adequate cap-to-cap switches and insulation level everywhere)
 
Thanks for the info, zoki. That is what I was looking for.

Can anyone recommend a good book on the topic of marx generators? Google searches aren't really cutting it.

-Thanks
 

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