Parallel Plate Capacitor Design

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The discussion revolves around the design of a parallel plate capacitor, specifically addressing the mathematical implications of capacitance in relation to the physical properties of materials, including the dielectric constant and breakdown voltage. Participants explore how these factors influence the practical design and limitations of capacitors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the interpretation of the capacitance equation, suggesting that an infinitely small distance between plates would imply infinite capacitance, which seems counterintuitive.
  • Another participant notes the relationship between charge, voltage, and capacitance, indicating that the dielectric strength of the insulator is a critical factor.
  • A later reply acknowledges the connection between the charge-voltage-capacitance relationship and the maximum voltage specifications found in capacitor datasheets.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the thickness of the dielectric is crucial for ensuring reliable insulation between the plates, which is determined by the breakdown voltage related to dielectric strength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the capacitance equation and its relation to physical properties, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions regarding the dielectric strength and its dependence on material properties, as well as the unresolved mathematical implications of the capacitance equation in practical design scenarios.

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How to design a parallel plate capacitor.
Hello,

A question came up in my head that I couldn't think of a way to math out.

Say I want to design a parallel plate capacitor. The equation for capacitance is quite simple:
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Everything in this equation makes sense, besides for the distance. This is saying that an infinitely small length of material would have infinite capacitance. This doesn't seem right, as a material can only hold so much charge/electric field. How would I go about factoring in the amount of charge a material can hold when designing a parallel plate capacitor?

I'm going through an exercise of designing a silicon dioxide capacitor (dielectric constant = ~4).
 
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The solution to the problem lies in the relation between charge, voltage and capacitance. Q = CV and the dielectric strength of the insulator.
 
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gleem said:
The solution to the problem lies in the relation between charge, voltage and capacitance. Q = CV and the dielectric strength of the insulator.

Thanks, that makes sense. This probably gives rise to those "maximum voltage" specifications we see in capacitor datasheets?
 
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The critical thing that determines capacitor physical volume is the thickness of the dielectric needed to separate and reliably insulate the plates. That thickness will be determined by the breakdown voltage, a function of dielectric strength in volts / metre.
 
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