Mass difference between K0 and K0-bar and other meson-antimeson pairs

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The discussion centers on the mass differences observed between K0 and K0-bar, as well as other meson-antimeson pairs like D0 and D0-bar, B0 and B0-bar, and Bs0 and Bs0-bar. Participants explore the implications of these mass differences in the context of particle oscillations and the role of weak interactions, questioning the validity of the TCP theorem in this scenario.

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  • Some participants assert that the mass differences in meson-antimeson pairs arise from the mixing of flavor eigenstates into mass eigenstates, which have different masses and lifetimes.
  • Others argue that K0 and K0-bar are not mass eigenstates, and the observed mass difference is due to the off-diagonal terms in the mass matrix that account for oscillations.
  • A participant questions the origin of the mass difference between the mass eigenstates, despite the flavor eigenstates having equal mass.
  • Another participant notes that the mass matrix must satisfy CPT symmetry, leading to equal diagonal terms, but the off-diagonal terms contribute to mass splitting.
  • There is mention of a recent measurement by LHCb regarding D0-D0-bar oscillations, indicating ongoing experimental relevance.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons behind the mass differences. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of mass eigenstates and the implications of the TCP theorem.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of the mass matrix and the dependence on the definitions of flavor and mass eigenstates. There are unresolved questions regarding the specific mechanisms that lead to mass differences in the context of particle oscillations.

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The K0--K0-bar, D0--D0-bar, B0--B0-bar, Bs0--Bs0-bar systems all exhibit oscillations whose rate is proportional to their mass difference via a second order weak interaction "box" diagram.

I don't understand how their masses can differ, when they are simply C conjugates of one another. Doesn't the TCP theorem forbid a difference between the masses of a particle and respective anti-particle?

I assume the mass difference between a K0 and a K0-bar (or in the other systems) is caused not by a difference in the masses of s and s-bar or d and d-bar, but by something else. Can someone explain how this mass difference comes about?
 
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The mass differences are not between D0 and D0bar (for example) - those are not mass eigenstates anyway. I'll keep the charm meson as example, it is similar for the other systems:

D0 and D0bar are flavour eigenstates - they have a well-defined quark content.
However, they can mix into each other. This allows to find mass eigenstates D1, D2. Those have different masses M1, M2 and lifetimes ##\Gamma_1##,##\Gamma_2##.
The flavour eigenstates are now superpositions of those mass eigenstates and vice versa:

##D_1=p D^0 + q \overline{D^0}## and ##D_2=p D^0 - q \overline{D^0}##
where ##|p|^2+|q|^2=1##, both are complex parameters.

Without CP violation, those mass eigenstates are CP eigenstates, and p=q.

In the charm system, it is common to define
##x=\frac{M_1-M_2}{\Gamma}## and ##y=\frac{\Gamma_1-\Gamma_2}{2\Gamma}## where ##\Gamma=\frac{\Gamma_1+\Gamma_2}{2}## is the average lifetime.
There was a recent measurement of those values by LHCb: Observation of D0-D0bar oscillations
I think you can find references to the theory there.
 
mfb said:
The mass differences are not between D0 and D0bar (for example) - those are not mass eigenstates anyway. I'll keep the charm meson as example, it is similar for the other systems:

D0 and D0bar are flavour eigenstates - they have a well-defined quark content.
However, they can mix into each other. This allows to find mass eigenstates D1, D2. Those have different masses M1, M2 and lifetimes ##\Gamma_1##,##\Gamma_2##.
The flavour eigenstates are now superpositions of those mass eigenstates and vice versa:

##D_1=p D^0 + q \overline{D^0}## and ##D_2=p D^0 - q \overline{D^0}##
where ##|p|^2+|q|^2=1##, both are complex parameters.

Without CP violation, those mass eigenstates are CP eigenstates, and p=q.

In the charm system, it is common to define
##x=\frac{M_1-M_2}{\Gamma}## and ##y=\frac{\Gamma_1-\Gamma_2}{2\Gamma}## where ##\Gamma=\frac{\Gamma_1+\Gamma_2}{2}## is the average lifetime.
There was a recent measurement of those values by LHCb: Observation of D0-D0bar oscillations
I think you can find references to the theory there.

Thanks! What you say makes sense to me. Except that the question why then is there a mass difference between D1 and D2 remains. ##D^0## and ##\overline{D^0}## have the same mass and p, q are normalised. What is causing the difference in the mass of the mass eigenstates?
 
[itex]K^{0}[/itex] and [itex]\bar{K^{0}}[/itex] (and other examples you gave) are not mass eigenstates.

The mass difference which determines the rate of oscillations in these systems is the mass difference between the two mass eigenstates of the system.

If you would write the mass matrix in the [itex]K^{0}[/itex], [itex]\bar{K^{0}}[/itex] basis you would get that the diagonal terms are equal ( due to CPT, as you said) but the off diagonal term (due to [itex]K^{0}\leftrightarrow\bar{K^{0}}[/itex] oscillations) would cause splitting in mass between the mass eigenstates.

The mass eigenstates are not conjugates of each other.
 
$$M=\begin{pmatrix} M_{11} & M_{12} \\ M_{21} & M_{22} \end{pmatrix}$$
+CPT => ##M_{11}=M_{22}##
+CP => ##M_{12}=M_{21}##

The mass matrix has two different eigenvalues, their difference depends on the relative strength of M12 to M11.
 

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