Masses Over a Uniform Cylindrical Pulley

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving a uniform cylindrical pulley with two masses, where the moment of inertia is calculated as I=½MR², yielding 0.352 kg·m² for a cylinder of mass 4.4 kg and radius 0.4 m. The gravitational force acting on mass mb is calculated as 470.4 N, and the gravitational potential energy for mb is determined to be 1176 J. The user contemplates the relationship between potential energy, torque, and angular kinematics, seeking clarity on how these concepts interrelate in the context of the problem.

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ηϖ1. Homework Statement
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Homework Equations


I=½MR2
PE=mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing that jumped out at me was "uniform cylinder" so I went ahead and calculated the moment of inertia for the cylinder and got I=½(4.4)(.4)2 = .352 and held onto that.

Then, I calculated the forces due to gravity of each mass that is pulling down on the string.
Fmb = 48kg×9.8m/s2 = 470.4N
I'm not sure if I do the same for ma because it's resting on the table, so is there a force pulling on the string creating tension?

But the next thing I did was find the gravitational potential energy of mb:
PE = mgh = 48kg×9.8m/s2×2.5m = 1176 J.

I'm not sure if torque is needed, but I went ahead and calculated it anyways:

T=F×r = 470.4N×.4m = 188.16

And that is all I can think to do. I'm not sure how the radius, inertia, mass, and other properties of the pulley affect the masses A and B that move up and down via the string over that pulley.

Could I take the 1176 J of potential energy and set it equal to ½mv2? But what mass would I use? Mass of the system (A + B)? Solve for V? That seems too simple for this section, because we are learning about angular kinematics, torque...etc. I think I'm missing something.

Thank you for your time and advice!
 
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Hi there,

The hint in the exercise is pretty clear: use energy considerations. So list off all the energies (my clue: there's more than you mentioned so far, but you are thinking in the right direction) at t=0 at at t = bump.

Extra tip: does the ##\bf I## you calculated have any influence ? (Imagine a huge R0 to decide)
 

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