Mastering Derivatives: How to Solve a Complex Chain Rule Problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the expression {6x+[8x^(1/2)]}^(1/2), which involves the application of the chain rule, particularly with nested square roots.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to correctly format the expression for input into a computer program, with some questioning the use of parentheses and the correct representation of the nested square roots.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of how to properly enter the expression into the program, with participants offering suggestions about formatting. Some express uncertainty about their attempts and whether they are on the right track, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges with the nested square roots and the need for clarity in using parentheses, which may affect the input into the program. There is also a hint provided that emphasizes the importance of applying the chain rule correctly.

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Homework Statement


{6x+[8x^(1/2)]}^(1/2)


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I know its chain rule with a square root inside a square root but i can not seem to get the right answer to enter into the computer program my college uses

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So you want help to rewrite it in a way that will work in the program?
Try entering it with just parentheses ().
 


No i can not seem to get the solution
 


The square root inside a square root is throwing me off
 


Is this what it looks like?

[tex]\sqrt{6x + 8\sqrt{x}}[/tex]
 


no the 8 is also inside the inner square root
 


You didn't use parentheses correctly, then. 8x needs to be in parentheses.

{6x+[(8x)^(1/2)]}^(1/2)
 


Ok but that is the problem and i need the solution
 


How are you entering it into the program?
 
  • #10


(1/2){[6+(8x)^(1/2)]^(-1/2)}{6+(4x)^(-1/2)]
 
  • #11


Have you tried with just parentheses () and no square brackets [] or curly braces {} ?
 
  • #12


yes but this provides me with the answer i have worked out which is (1/2){6+(8x)^(1/2)]^(-1/2)}[6+(1/2)(8x)^(-1/2)](1/2)[(8x)^(-1/2)](8) and the hint says "You start
with (6x+(8x)^.5))^.5. The inside is (6x+(8x)^.5). So, use the chain
rule on that. Once you have that and have to take the derivative of the
inside, then you need to also do the chain rule with the inside of 8x."
 
  • #13


So you're having trouble doing it by hand on paper?
 
  • #14


i guess..if my answer doesn't look right, but i believe i am getting the right answer
 

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