Chain Rule Problem (Partial derivatives)

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Homework Statement


Equation: x^2 (∂²z/∂x²) − y^2 (∂²z/∂y²) = −4uv (∂²z/∂u∂v) + 2v (∂z/∂v), with the given relation u = xy, v = y/x and f having continuous second partial derivatives.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I have the solution to this problem and the issue I'm having is that I don't understand this step:

Handwritten-style derivation of second partial derivatives by the chain rule, with red and blue boxes highlighting terms that are connected by arrows.


Maybe I'm overlooking something simple but, for the red circled part, it seems to say that ∂/∂x(∂z/∂u) = (∂2z/∂u2)y+(∂2z/∂v∂u)(-y/x2). I realize that ∂2z/∂x∂u = ∂2z/∂u∂x but I can't see how either of them leads to the above. I almost understand it when I try to take the latter but apparently they take y and y/x^2 as constants and I don't understand why that is (assuming that is indeed what the solution is doing).
 
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slr77 said:
I realize that ∂2z/∂x∂u = ∂2z/∂u∂x

This is generally not true. The partial derivative with respect to x implicitly assumes y to be constant and the partial derivative with respect to u assumes v to be constant.

You are looking to apply the chain rule in its most basic form:
$$
\partial_x = \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \partial_u + \frac{\partial v}{\partial x} \partial_v.
$$
What is being used is simply the very first line, but with ##z## replaced by ##\partial z/\partial u##.
 
Orodruin said:
This is generally not true. The partial derivative with respect to x implicitly assumes y to be constant and the partial derivative with respect to u assumes v to be constant.

You are looking to apply the chain rule in its most basic form:
$$
\partial_x = \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \partial_u + \frac{\partial v}{\partial x} \partial_v.
$$
What is being used is simply the very first line, but with ##z## replaced by ##\partial z/\partial u##.

Oh of course, I remember how to do this now. ∂z/∂u is a function of (u,v) which are functions of (x,y) so I just apply the chain rule like usual.

I made some really bad mistakes here (especially applying Clairaut's theorem so incorrectly) but at least the problem now looks pretty straightforward. Thanks for the help.