Mastering the Chain Rule with Fractions for Calculus Students

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The discussion centers on differentiating the function 1/(4x - 7) using the chain rule. Participants clarify the correct interpretation of the function and confirm that u can be set as 4x - 7. The chain rule is emphasized, with the derivative expressed as -4/(4x - 7)², prompting questions about why the exponent is squared. It is explained that when differentiating a fraction, the power of the denominator increases, leading to the negative exponent in the derivative. The importance of proper notation in mathematical expressions is also highlighted to avoid confusion.
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Okay, I know how to differentiate regular functions. But when it comes to fractions, I'm hopeless. This may be an extremely simple one to some, here is the function; "1/4x-7"
I have to differentiate that using the chain rule.

I think that u=4x-7, but I am not sure. As i said, I am horrible when it comes to fractions in the chain rule.
 
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TheAkuma said:
Okay, I know how to differentiate regular functions. But when it comes to fractions, I'm hopeless. This may be an extremely simple one to some, here is the function; "1/4x-7"
I have to differentiate that using the chain rule.

I think that u=4x-7, but I am not sure. As i said, I am horrible when it comes to fractions in the chain rule.
First, what exactly is your function? Is it (1/4)x- 7 or 1/(4x)- 7 or 1/(4x- 7)?

Since you say "I think that u=4x-7", I assume it is 1/(4x- 7). As for what "u" is, that's your choice. TRY something and see if it works. If you choose u= 4x- 7 then 1/(4x-7)= 1/u= u-1. Can you differentiate that? And you certainly ought to be able to differentiate u= 4x-7 (the derivative of a linear function is just its slope). Finally, the chain rule says
\frac{df}{dx}= \frac{df}{du}\frac{du}{dx}.
 
HallsofIvy said:
First, what exactly is your function? Is it (1/4)x- 7 or 1/(4x)- 7 or 1/(4x- 7)?

Since you say "I think that u=4x-7", I assume it is 1/(4x- 7). As for what "u" is, that's your choice. TRY something and see if it works. If you choose u= 4x- 7 then 1/(4x-7)= 1/u= u-1. Can you differentiate that? And you certainly ought to be able to differentiate u= 4x-7 (the derivative of a linear function is just its slope). Finally, the chain rule says
\frac{df}{dx}= \frac{df}{du}\frac{du}{dx}.

well the function is actually 1/4x-7. there is no brackets so i naturally assumed u=4x-7. I get it how the answer is -4/(4x-7)2 but why is it squared? i was thinking 1/u X -4 where u=4x-7. What I want to know now is why is the u squared?
 
Ohh! when there is a power of at the bottom of the fraction, does it go up? like from to the power of one it'll go up to the power of 2?
 
I'm guessing that your function is written in your text or worksheet like this:
\frac{1}{4x - 7}

When you write it on a single line, you have to put parentheses around the terms in the denominator. IOW, like this: 1/(4x - 7).

The way you wrote it, without parentheses, would be interpreted like this:
\frac{1}{4} x - 7

BTW, why did you post this under Precalculus Mathematics? This is obviously a calculus problem.
 
TheAkuma said:
Ohh! when there is a power of at the bottom of the fraction, does it go up? like from to the power of one it'll go up to the power of 2?
\frac{1}{x^2}= x^{-2} and the derivative of x^n is nx^{n-1} where n is any number [As GibZ pointed out- any number except -1!]. If n= -2 what does that give you?

(You could also do that problem using the "quotient rule": the derivative of u(x)/v(x)= (u'v- uv')/v2. If u=1 and v= x2, what does that give you?
 
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Mark44 said:
I'm guessing that your function is written in your text or worksheet like this:
\frac{1}{4x - 7}

When you write it on a single line, you have to put parentheses around the terms in the denominator. IOW, like this: 1/(4x - 7).

The way you wrote it, without parentheses, would be interpreted like this:
\frac{1}{4} x - 7

BTW, why did you post this under Precalculus Mathematics? This is obviously a calculus problem.

Well my teacher told me that this is sort of like the introduction to calculus.
 
HallsofIvy said:
\frac{1}{x^2}= x^{-2} and the derivative of x^n is nx^{n-1} where n is any number. If n= -2 what does that give you?

Careful! Not if n=0 !. =]

TheAkuma: Introduction or not, please post under the calculus section. If helps the homework helpers out if they know what kind of things to expect to help people with.
 

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