Material Parameters: Heat Transfer Coeffecient & Emissivity

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The discussion revolves around obtaining material parameters such as heat transfer coefficients and emissivity for silicon, silicon dioxide, and nickel, particularly in the context of heat transfer simulations at micro and nano scales. Participants explore the nature of these parameters and their dependence on geometry and specific conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks specific values for heat transfer coefficients and emissivity for silicon, silicon dioxide, and nickel.
  • Another participant suggests that heat transfer coefficients are not intrinsic material properties but depend on geometry and the specific problem context.
  • A participant questions whether heat transfer coefficients are geometry-based functions and expresses interest in values at micro and nano scales.
  • Discussion includes the modes of heat transfer: conduction, convection, and radiation, with a query about any additional modes.
  • A participant introduces the Nusselt number as a way to describe heat transfer coefficients, providing a formula that relates it to Reynolds and Prandtl numbers.
  • Concerns are raised about the applicability of traditional formulas at the nano scale, indicating a need for specific data relevant to small-scale geometries.
  • A participant requests adaptations of the provided equations for a cuboidal cross-section and seeks sources for Reynolds and Prandtl parameters.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to a specific academic paper for insights on heat transfer at the microscale.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of heat transfer coefficients and their applicability at different scales. There are competing views on how to obtain and apply these parameters in simulations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the dependence of heat transfer coefficients on geometry and the challenges of applying traditional formulas at the nano scale. There are unresolved questions about the specific values and sources for Reynolds and Prandtl parameters.

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Hi everyone...

I am doing a heat transfer simulation problem related with silicon, silicon dioxide and Nickel... I would like to get some parametres like heat transfer coeffecient(h), emmisivity (e) etc of these materials ...has anyone got this data or can anyone suggest me a link to get these data...
 
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Those aren't really material properties, they are more geometry and actual problem based. You'll need way more information.
 
hi minger
thanks for responding...so how will i get those values? is heat transfer coeffecient a geometry based function? i am actually interested in microns and nanometre scale values...
 
Heat is transferred by a)conduction, b)convection. and c)radiation. Is there any other way?
 
Yes, often times heat transfer coefficients are described in terms of the Nusselt number
Nu_l \equiv \frac{h_l l}{k}
Where l is a characteristic length, h is the convection coefficient and k is the thermal conductivity.

Now, the Nusselt number is something that can be found either experimentally, or empirically. For example, for a cylinder in cross-flow, the Number can be:
<br /> \bar{Nu_D} = 0.3 + \frac{0.62 Re_D^{1/2}Pr^{1/3}}{[1+(0.4/Pr)^{2/3}]^{1/4}}\left[1+ \left(\frac{Re_D}{282,000}\right)^{5/8}\right]^{4/5}<br />
This is just a big function which is based on two simple non-dimensional parameters, Reynolds and Prandlt. From calculating this, one can go and back calculate the convection coefficient.

However, on nano-scale things break down. You'll have to find number/results that not only apply to your geometry, but on small scale as well. I wish you luck,
 
thanks minger..
so u mean to say that i can't rely on the formula which u gave nw...ok then my hard time starts nw to find on the nano scale...can you tell me what those above equations will be if my crss section is a cuboid? and lso any source to find reynolds and prandlt's parametre?
 
A good start might be Ozsun et al.'s, "On heat transfer at microscale with implications for microactuator design," J Micromech Microeng 19 (2009).
 

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