(materials science) slip system

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The discussion focuses on the slip systems in face-centered cubic (FCC) crystals, specifically addressing the number of {111} planes and <110> directions. Participants explore the geometric and symmetrical properties of the cube that contribute to these slip systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that there are 12 slip systems in FCC cubic structures, consisting of 4 {111} planes and 3 <110> directions.
  • One participant questions why there are 4 unique {111} planes instead of just 1, suggesting that while 8 {111} planes can be drawn, only 4 are unique due to parallelism and separation.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the number of <110> directions, stating that it seems there should be 6, as there are 2 face diagonals on each of the 3 faces of the cube.
  • Responses highlight the role of rotational symmetry in reducing the perceived number of unique directions, with one participant explaining how rotating the cube can transform one face diagonal into another.
  • A later reply suggests that this symmetry might imply there is only one relevant <110> direction, as all others can be derived from it through symmetry-preserving rotations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the uniqueness of the {111} planes and <110> directions, indicating that there is no consensus on the interpretation of symmetry and its implications for the number of slip systems.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of unique planes and directions, as well as the implications of symmetry, remain unresolved. The discussion does not clarify the mathematical basis for the claims made regarding the number of slip systems.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in materials science, crystallography, and solid mechanics, particularly those exploring the mechanical properties of crystalline materials.

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for the FCC cubic, there are 12 slip systems: 4 {111} planes and 3 <110> directions...
what i don't understand is why are there 4{111} planes instead of 1?
 
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How many corners to a cube? How many major diagonals?
 
asdf1 said:
what i don't understand is why are there 4{111} planes instead of 1?
In a cube, you'll find you can draw 8 {1,1,1} planes. However, you'll also see that only 4 of these are unique - the other 4 being parallel to these and separated from them by distance of a/sqrt(3), where 'a' is the cube edge.

What I don't understand is why there are only 3 <110> directions when it looks to me like there should be 6 (2 face diagonals on each of the 3 faces).
 
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Rotational symmetry - rotate the cube 90° about the normal to the face plane, and one face diagonal transforms to the other (perpendicular) diagonal.

Or rotate the cube 180° about the normal to the base and the <110> becomes <1\bar10>.
 
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ok~ thank you!
 
Astronuc said:
Rotational symmetry - rotate the cube 90° about the normal to the face plane, and one face diagonal transforms to the other (perpendicular) diagonal.

Or rotate the cube 180° about the normal to the base and the <110> becomes <1\bar10>.
Doesn't this argue that there is only one relevant <110> direction? After all, I can generate the other 5 face diagonals from any one, using a combination of symmetry preserving rotations.

Yikes! I've completely lost touch with basic crystallography - time to hit the books.
 

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