Math Ability Internationally Tested

[marlon]

Hi you all,

In my journal i posted an entry with some links to the PISA-site. This organization conducted a survey by making a comparison of math aptitude of students in high schools throughout the entire world.

Some of the top nations are Korea, Japan and Belgium
The United States did not perform at all...please read the OFFICIAL document and see for yourselves...

https://www.physicsforums.com/journal.php?s=&journalid=13790&action=view

regards
marlon

 

[jai6638]

The United States did not perform at all...please read the OFFICIAL document and see for yourselves...

regards
marlon

that isn't surprising.. why don't they have India or singapore listed?

 

[marlon]

that isn't surprising.. why don't they have India or singapore listed?

They are...you did not read the document thouroughly...Singapore is also among the top-countries...


regards
marlon

 

[jai6638]

i must be blind coz i still can't find India in the pdf..i used the find function to search for INDIA but to no avail..

checkedthe website.. participating countries for 2006 ( which is more than 2003 ) are :

Argentina* Australia Austria
Azerbaijan* Belgium Brazil*
Bulgaria* Canada Chile*
Colombia* Croatia* Czech Republic
Denmark Estonia* Finland
France Germany Greece
Hong Kong-China* Hungary Iceland
Indonesia* Ireland Israel*
Italy Japan Jordan*
Kazakhstan* Korea Kyrgyzstan*
Latvia* Lithuania* Luxembourg
Macao-China* Mexico The Netherlands
New Zealand Norway Poland
Portugal Qatar* Romania*
Russian Federation* Serbia and Montenegro* Slovak Republic
Slovenia* Spain Sweden
Switzerland Chinese Taipei* Thailand*
Tunisia* Turkey United Kingdom
United States Uruguay*

theres no India or singapore for that matter..

 

[Gokul43201]

India, China, Singapore, etc. were not included in the study.

 

[atrec]

There weren't Engliand either ?
can you guys tell me who from US took the free trip to olymp for fun that time ?

 

[Gokul43201]

There weren't Engliand either ?

Actually, UK was a part of the survey, but the number of responses was too small for statistical consistency.

 

[jai6638]

India, China, Singapore, etc. were not included in the study.

thats lame... i heard singapore has an excellant education system which could mean that the mathematical ability of students is great ( coz of the good foundation ) ... i would think India and china would rank pretty good too

 

[recon]

I've taken part in several mathematics competitions within the South East Asian region, and I can tell you that the mathematical abilities of Singaporean students is outstanding. Just look at the results of this international competition.


Singaporean (SIN) students make up around 8% of the competition's participants (numbering half a million), yet 5 out of the 13 perfect scorers for 2004 were Singaporeans. I don't even want to begin talking about Brunei...

 

[jai6638]

now that i think about it... singapore has a small populatoin... so if compared to nations like China or India ( 1billion populatoin ) don't u think the smart ones would be more promiment in singapore as compared to the other 2 countries??

so even if there's a % of people who are smart in singapore.. its still a small populatiion compared to India or china

Dunno if the above post makes sense...lol .. however, would want to know how can a fair comparison between countries of varying populations be done?

 

[recon]

Are you talking about the principle of diminishing returns as applied to countries?

 

[jai6638]

hmmm i don't think so..what I am tryin to say is that in a small country like singapore there will be less diversity in terms of mathematical ability due to a smaller population( i.e. either the citizens would not be great in math or they would be... in singapores case, ofcourse, they are good at math ) as compared to countries like India and China which have 1+billion populationn... So how can a fair comparison be made?