Mathematical Probability Question

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical probability question involving n people standing in a circle and the probability of selecting two individuals, A and B, with exactly r people in between them in the clockwise direction. The solution is simplified by fixing one person, A, which leads to the conclusion that only one person, B, can satisfy the condition for each r. The range for r is from 0 to n-2, resulting in (n-1) possible values for r. Therefore, the probability of having exactly r people between A and B is determined to be 1/(n-1). The conversation emphasizes the importance of hints over direct answers for deeper learning.
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I spent quite a lot of time trying to figure out this question that I read in a book. Through trial and error, I got a rough idea of what the solution should be like but can't figure out how I would derive it mathematically. Can anyone give me some directions? :)

QUESTION:

n people stand in a circle, where n > 2. we pick two person, A and B, at random. what is the probability that there are exactly r people standing in between A and B, in the clockwise direction?
 
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Hi Legendre! :wink:

Can you think of a way of simplifying the question? :smile:
 
Given a choice of A, how many B's will satisfy the condition?
 
elibj123 said:
Given a choice of A, how many B's will satisfy the condition?

Yup! :biggrin:

(or, rather, what proportion of B's will satisfy the condition?)

So you can simplify the problem by arbitrarily fixing A, which makes the answer … ? :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Yup! :biggrin:

(or, rather, what proportion of B's will satisfy the condition?)

So you can simplify the problem by arbitrarily fixing A, which makes the answer … ? :smile:



Thanks for not outright giving the answer! I find that I learn much more if I were to come out with an answer using hints.

Now let's see...

Fix A. Counting in the clockwise direction, only 1 B satisfies "exactly r people are standing between A and B".

0 <= r <= (n-2). So there are (n-1) possible r.

So the probability is 1/(n-1).
 
(just got up :zzz: …)
Legendre said:
So the probability is 1/(n-1).

:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:
 
tiny-tim said:
(just got up :zzz: …)


:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:



haha thanks!
 
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