Mathematics for Physics in Zurich 16/17

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Aki is preparing to study physics at ETH Zurich and seeks guidance on relearning mathematics essential for understanding physics concepts. He acknowledges a past struggle with math and expresses a desire to cultivate a deeper understanding. A fellow student suggests focusing on analysis, linear algebra, and mathematical methods for physics, emphasizing that these subjects are crucial for success in physics. The responder shares personal experiences of starting physics later in life, highlighting challenges such as difficult exams and a perceived lack of support within the physics community. Aki clarifies his intention to prepare independently before starting his studies and expresses a motivation to learn physics to enhance his entrepreneurial skills in technical fields. The discussion reflects a shared concern about the academic environment in physics and the importance of foundational math knowledge.
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Hello Board!By eluding most math class' and homework as a youngster
I have deprived myself effectively of a tool on which I am dependent nowadays.
My love for mathematics if ever existent was ephemeral, unpredictable in its manifestation.
I would either almost fail the class or would have finished the entire math book before we even had reached 3/4 of the school year.

Today, seven years later at the age of 25 I have set my mind to study physics in the upcoming winter semester 16/17 in Zurich
and I need to prepare, no relearn and refurbish my understanding of the required mathematics.

Having been an ignorant for such a long time I would like to ask you people,
who have already cultivated a joy and deep understanding of the subjects, to help me manoeuvre through this.
This will be hopefully a guide for many years to come.

What math and in which order should I learn the material to truly comprehend physics?All I can give you in return is my sincerest effort and deep felt gratitude.
Cheers,
Aki
PS: Yes, I might have an awkward English it is my second language with German being my first but I do understand it quite well so please don't hesitate.
 
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Aki's Notes said:
Hello Board!By eluding most math class' and homework as a youngster
I have deprived myself effectively of a tool on which I am dependent nowadays.
My love for mathematics if ever existent was ephemeral, unpredictable in its manifestation.
I would either almost fail the class or would have finished the entire math book before we even had reached 3/4 of the school year.

Today, seven years later at the age of 25 I have set my mind to study physics in the upcoming winter semester 16/17 in Zurich
and I need to prepare, no relearn and refurbish my understanding of the required mathematics.

Having been an ignorant for such a long time I would like to ask you people,
who have already cultivated a joy and deep understanding of the subjects, to help me manoeuvre through this.
This will be hopefully a guide for many years to come.

What math and in which order should I learn the material to truly comprehend physics?All I can give you in return is my sincerest effort and deep felt gratitude.
Cheers,
Aki
PS: Yes, I might have an awkward English it is my second language with German being my first but I do understand it quite well so please don't hesitate.
I am also studying in Zurich, 3rd year of physics. I didn't get if you want to study in your spare time or at a university. In your spare time, you should do:

-Analysis
-Linear Algebra
-Mathematical methods for physicsThis is the absolute minimum to learn physics afterwards (assuming you can handle probability intuitively).
Just look up books on these subjects, I'm afraid I can't help you on which though because I didn't use books in my undergraduate courses. Mathematical methods should have one called "Courant Hilbert" which is good (but very long and you won't need everything).

Now for a piece of life advice: I also started studying physics late. I was an excellent economics student, now I'm an average physics student. If I could go back, I would. The world of physics has been full of anti-social people, uninterested in whether you're understanding the subject, overly difficult exams made to fail a percentage of the class and arrogance for me. In my opinion, nothing good can flourish in such an environment. I also thought I had a passion, I also thought mathematics was "cool" and required nowadays. I was wrong.
 
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I am also studying in Zurich, 3rd year of physics. I didn't get if you want to study in your spare time or at a university. In your spare time, you should do:

-Analysis
-Linear Algebra
-Mathematical methods for physicsThis is the absolute minimum to learn physics afterwards (assuming you can handle probability intuitively).
Just look up books on these subjects, I'm afraid I can't help you on which though because I didn't use books in my undergraduate courses. Mathematical methods should have one called "Courant Hilbert" which is good (but very long and you won't need everything).

Now for a piece of life advice: I also started studying physics late. I was an excellent economics student, now I'm an average physics student. If I could go back, I would. The world of physics has been full of anti-social people, uninterested in whether you're understanding the subject, overly difficult exams made to fail a percentage of the class and arrogance for me. In my opinion, nothing good can flourish in such an environment. I also thought I had a passion, I also thought mathematics was "cool" and required nowadays. I was wrong.

Thank you for your answer realnoob!
I have heard similar stories from friends while I was in Vienna,
it seems that the subject of Physics tends to accumulate people with specific traits.
To clarify any misunderstandings, I want to study in Zurich at the ETH
but would prepare myself in private, secluded from any course.Your last sentence intrigues me the most:
I also thought I had a passion, I also thought mathematics was "cool" and required nowadays.
I was wrong.

Would you be willing to elaborate on that any further?
My main motivation for learning physics is to become an entrepreneur in a more technical field
and be able to understand what the specifics of the given undertakings are.
I have a feeling that this is going to be quite educational, if I may say so.
 
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