Mathematics Required for Introductory G-Rel

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the mathematical prerequisites for studying general relativity (G-rel). Participants explore various mathematical concepts and resources that could help bridge the gap between their current knowledge and the requirements for understanding G-rel. The scope includes recommendations for books and subjects to study, as well as the order in which to approach these topics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to self-study G-rel and seeks specific recommendations for books and subjects to study in chronological order.
  • Another participant mentions the need to learn about tensors, non-Euclidean geometry, and the curvature of Riemannian manifolds, although they do not provide a specific order or resources.
  • A suggestion is made to review Sean Carroll's Notes on General Relativity as a resource that explains the necessary mathematics.
  • One participant recommends starting with an undergraduate-level G-rel book, such as "Exploring Black Holes," and suggests learning tensors in the context of electromagnetism first to build familiarity before tackling graduate-level G-rel texts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of certain mathematical topics for understanding G-rel, such as tensors and non-Euclidean geometry. However, there is no consensus on a specific chronological order for studying these subjects or on the best resources to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge gaps in their own knowledge and express uncertainty about the best path forward in their studies. There is a lack of detailed recommendations for a structured learning plan, and some participants express a desire for further clarification on the necessary mathematics.

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I would like to begin some self study of general relativity. I know the math invlolved is quite rigorous so I would greatly appreciate suggestions on books that will put my math level on par with G-rel. I currently have a knowledge of multi-v calc and vector cal (not tensors), linear algebra, and ordinary diff eqs. At this point, I am not quite sure how to progress into the mathematics. So basically, I am asking what subjects\books I need to read in chronological order to eventually have a full understanding of G-Rel mathematically. Again, I am completely lost as to what to do next, so please be specific ;).
 
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I haven't actually learned general relativity, but from what I've heard of it, you'll need to learn the maths about:
Tensors, non-euclidean geometry, curvature of reimannian manifolds.
I'm sure there is a lot more to learn as well. Maybe try this page, and follow the links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_mathematics_of_general_relativity
And I'm guessing you're already familiar with special relativity? I think that special relativity should be learned before general, since it gives a good introduction to some of the concepts. (And it is correct for inertial frames, when no gravitational field is present).

Edit: sorry I haven't given a chronological order of mathematics you need to learn, or recommended books. But I haven't learned it myself. In fact, I'd also be interested to know what I would need to learn to be able to understand general relativity.
 
You can start with an undergraduate GR book, right now, such as "Exploring black holes". I think there were a few others recommended at that level as well.

Personally, I'd recommend learning tensors in the context of electromagnetism first, assuming you have a reasonable background in E&M. Then you'll be somewhat familiar with them when you move onto a graduate level GR book.
 

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