Matrix with fractions for indices?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the representation of operators as matrices in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing the question of whether matrices can have fractional indices. The context is primarily theoretical, with implications for quantum mechanics studies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Shawn poses a question about the validity of using fractional indices in matrices, referencing a specific formula related to matrix elements in quantum mechanics.
  • One participant asserts that matrices can contain fractional indices, suggesting that they are a compact representation of operations on vectors.
  • Another participant proposes that the confusion may stem from the matrix representing a continuous operator, which could imply continuous indices.
  • A further reply challenges the completeness of Shawn's equation, suggesting that if it pertains to eigenvalues, the diagonal elements should be expressed differently, using a different variable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the use of fractional indices in matrices, with multiple viewpoints presented and some challenges to the initial formulation of the equation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the completeness of the equation presented and the implications of using fractional indices in the context of quantum mechanics.

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Hi PF Peeps!

Something came up while I was studying for my QM1 class. Basically we want to represent operators as matrices and in one case the matrix element is defined by the formula :

[itex]<m'|m> = \frac{h}{2\pi}\sqrt{\frac{15}{4} - m(m+1)} \delta_{m',m+1}[/itex]

But the thing is we know m takes on the fractional values -3/2, -1/2, 1/2, 3/2. So basically my question is simply put: can you have a matrix with fractions for indeces?

Thanks,
Shawn
 
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Yes you can. A matrix is essentially just a compact way of specifying what action to perform on each component of a vector to make another vector, and can contain whatever you want. Is there something you've seen or heard that made you think fractional indices weren't possible?
 
Maybe it is because your matrix represents a continuous operator hence having continuous indices ?
 
I think your equation is not complete. If this is an eigenvalues equation then the diagonal matrix must have elements like:
$$ \sqrt{\frac{15}{4}-i(i+1)} $$where i the correspond to matrix column/row element by the same index on m values.
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