Python Max Distance from which a python detects infrared radiation

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A discussion centered on a physics problem involving a python's ability to detect thermal radiation from a human body highlighted key calculations and concepts. The problem states that a python can detect radiation with an intensity above 0.60 W/m2, and the human body is modeled as a point source with specific parameters: surface area of 1.8 m2, surface temperature of 30°C, and emissivity of 0.97. Participants calculated the peak wavelength of emitted radiation using the formula λ = (2.9*10^6 nm⋅K)/T, resulting in a wavelength of 9571 nm, indicating most emission is in the infrared spectrum. The power emitted by the human body was calculated using the Stefan-Boltzmann law, yielding a value of 834 W. This power was then used to determine the maximum detection distance by applying the intensity formula I = P/(4πr^2), leading to a calculated distance of approximately 10.5 meters.
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Homework Statement



A python can detect thermal radiation with intensity greater than .60 W/m2. A typical human body has a surface area of 1.8 m2, a surface temperature of 30°C, and an emissivity e=0.97 at infrared wavelengths. What is the maximum distance from which a python can detect your presence? You can model the human body as a point source of radiation.

I = .60 W/m2
e = 0.97
T = 303 K
A = 1.8 m2
d = ? (m)

Homework Equations


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λ = (2.9*106 nm⋅K)/ Temp (in K)
I = P/(4πr2)
Q/Δt = eσAT4
σ = 5.67 * 10 -8 W/(m2⋅K4)

The Attempt at a Solution



λ = (2.9*106 nm⋅K)/ 303 K = 9571 nm

And if P = Watts, A = m2, and I = W/m2
Then, P = I*A → .60*1.8 = 1.08 W

.60 W/m2 = (0.97 * 1.08 W)/(4πr2)
r = .37 m

Honestly, I'm not sure what else to do. I don't think "P" is correct.
 
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Hello R, welcome to PF :)

I agree P probably isn't correct. Is it clear what the relevant equations you are listing stand for ?
I like the third one: Q/time (aka P !), according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law
You have all the ingredients to evaluate the human body emission ##P_{emit}##. It's rather a lot.
Your first equation tells you the peak wavelength of the intensity distribution spectrum is at over 9000 nm, so most of this P is in the infrared.
I suppose (but don't know for sure -- perhaps someone else can confirm or correct) that fraction is precisely the emissivity factor.

And that is the P you want to distribute over a sphere using your second equation. By the time r is so big that I < 0.6 W/m2 you've found the range.
 
BvU said:
Hello R, welcome to PF :)

I agree P probably isn't correct. Is it clear what the relevant equations you are listing stand for ?
I like the third one: Q/time (aka P !), according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law
You have all the ingredients to evaluate the human body emission ##P_{emit}##. It's rather a lot.
Your first equation tells you the peak wavelength of the intensity distribution spectrum is at over 9000 nm, so most of this P is in the infrared.
I suppose (but don't know for sure -- perhaps someone else can confirm or correct) that fraction is precisely the emissivity factor.

And that is the P you want to distribute over a sphere using your second equation. By the time r is so big that I < 0.6 W/m2 you've found the range.

Oh! So, using P = eσAT4, I found P = 834 W.
Then, I = P/(4πr2), I found that r = 10.5 m!

That's seems realistic! Thank you for all your help! :D
 
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I also think I remember hearing that snakes only 'see' movement.

Oh, well, with physics you can't know everything (although some physicists seem to think otherwise ;) )
 
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