Maximizing Area with a 10m Wire: Square or Equilateral Triangle?

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The discussion revolves around maximizing the area formed by a 10m piece of wire, specifically comparing a square and an equilateral triangle. Participants explore the area formulas for both shapes and the implications of their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the maximum area by comparing the areas of a square and an equilateral triangle, noting a discrepancy between their calculations and the textbook answer. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the side lengths used in the area calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one providing a correction regarding the side length used for the triangle's area calculation. There is an acknowledgment of the relationship between the number of sides of a polygon and the area it encloses, suggesting a broader exploration of geometric principles.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the correct application of the area formulas and the corresponding values for side lengths. The original poster references a critical point in their calculations, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the maximum area concept.

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Homework Statement



How do you cut a 10m piece of wire to get the maximum area when forming a square and an equilateral triangle?

Homework Equations



asquare=s2
atriangle=s2*\sqrt{}3/4

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(Note that I've already found the total area function, its derivative, its critical points and that x=~8.73 is a minimum.) As far as I know, the maximum area comes from not cutting the wire at all and making a triangle. Using those area formulas, it gives an area of ~43.3m2. However, the back of the book says maximum area comes from making a square. But doesn't this only give an area of 6.25m2? (s=10/4m, s2=6.25m2) Is the book wrong, or am I overlooking something?
 
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Your formulae were correct, but you must've plugged the wrong value of s in when calculating the area of the triangle. Since it's an equilateral triangle, s=10/3 and plugging this into the triangle area formula A=\frac{s\sqrt{3}}{4} gives A\approx 4.8 which is less than the area of the square.

You might find this interesting to note, if you consider a circle as being a regular polygon with infinite sides, then for any given perimeter P, the more sides the polygon has, the larger its area. For example, an equilateral triangle with perimeter P (each side P/3) has less area than a square with sides P/4 each, which is less than a pentagon... etc. and the circle with perimeter P has the largest possible area.
 
Aww. You beat me to it.

I was in the shower when I realized I used 10 as a side instead of 10/3. I haven't worked it out yet, but I'm assuming I won't have any problems from here. Thanks for the response.
 
Ahh that shower... we'd still be counting with our fingers if it weren't for that invention :wink:
 

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