Maximum Load on Beams: Formula & Share/Bend Moment Diagrams

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The discussion centers on the maximum load that can be supported by different types of beams, including simply supported, cantilevered, and fixed beams. Participants also explore the equations for shear and bending moment diagrams, questioning whether these are considered undetermined problems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about formulas for the maximum load on various beam types and whether the orientation of the principal axis affects these formulas.
  • Others assert that there are established load-deflection formulas for different beam configurations and load distributions.
  • A participant suggests that finding equations for shear and bending moment diagrams is not an undetermined problem, indicating that standard formulas exist.
  • Recommendations for resources include "Roark's Equations for Stress and Strain" and various Mechanics & Strengths of Materials textbooks, which cover static equilibrium and stress calculations.
  • One participant mentions that the peak load on a beam is related to the ultimate tensile strength (UTS) and that practical design often incorporates safety margins due to uncertainties in material properties and dimensions.
  • Links to online resources for further information on buckling and beam stress calculations are provided, highlighting the complexity of certain systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the problems related to shear and bending moment diagrams, with some asserting that standard solutions exist while others question this. There is no consensus on the maximum load formulas, as various factors such as beam type and loading conditions are discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the complexity of beam cross-sections and the impact of uncertainties in material properties and dimensions on design practices. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and conditions that may influence the applicability of the proposed formulas.

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Do you know if there is a formula for the maximum load that can be supported by a beam? The beam could be a simply supported beam, cantilevered, or fixed on both ends.
By the way, is finding the equations for share and bending moment diagrams an undetermined problem?
 
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topito2 said:
Do you know if there is a formula for the maximum load that can be supported by a beam? The beam could be a simply supported beam, cantilevered, or fixed on both ends.
Yes there are. Are you talking horizontal or vertical orientation of the principal axis? There are load-deflection formulae for any number of beams, load and load distributions, and end-point or boundary conditions.

By the way, is finding the equations for share and bending moment diagrams an undetermined problem?
There are already standard formulas.
 
Thank you for your answer. Do you recommend any book or website where I could look for further info regarding this topic?
 
"Roarks Equations for Stress and Strain" is the most comprehensive book you'll ever find for stress and strain equations, but the information you seek can be found in any Mechanics & Strengths of Materials textbook. Solve for static equilibrium and find the maximum moment in the beam in terms of force. Plug it into your stress bending equation stress=M*y/I, and solve for force with stress = to yield strength or UTS (depending on which is defined as failure). y=furthest distance from neutral axis of the beam, M is your maximum moment, and I is the moment of inertia of the beam cross section about the neutral axis. It's slightly more difficult if the beam cross section is not uniform throughout but not by much.
 
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topito2 said:
Thank you for your answer. Do you recommend any book or website where I could look for further info regarding this topic?
Roark's is one possiblity.

Then many textbooks and on-line resources have forumulas.

For example - buckling of a column (efunda has a limited number of samples, then one has to register, but there is a lot of valuable information there)
http://www.efunda.com/formulae/solid_mechanics/columns/columns.cfm

http://www.tech.plym.ac.uk/sme/desnotes/buckling.htm

http://www.diracdelta.co.uk/science/source/b/u/buckling load/source.html

Then there are more complicated systems - http://www.ce.washington.edu/em03/proceedings/papers/84.pdf

And of course, for horizontal beams and distributed load, there are formulas for maximum deflection and corresponding stresses in various types of beams and cross-sections. The peak load would be such that some location in the beam would exceed UTS and the beam would progress to failure. However, in practice, given various uncertainties in dimensions and material properties, and tolerances, one normally designs to some safety margin in order to avoid inadvertent failure.
 
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Thanks for all your answers. You have been very helpful.
 

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