MCNP source definition question

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The discussion revolves around defining a source in MCNP for modeling Californium-252, specifically focusing on creating a point source that can emit both neutrons and gamma rays with distinct energy spectra. The scope includes technical aspects of source definition and particle transport in simulations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in defining a point source of Californium-252 that emits different particle types, seeking guidance on how to implement this in MCNP.
  • Another participant suggests using a Watt Spectrum for the neutron emissions and provides a specific code snippet for defining the neutron source, noting challenges with normalizing results when emitting two different particle types.
  • A different approach is proposed, recommending running two separate calculations—one for neutrons and one for gamma rays—and then combining the results based on the relative emission rates of each particle type.
  • A participant reiterates their use of the Watt Spectrum and confirms that the suggested method worked well for them, indicating a positive outcome from the proposed approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing views on the best method to define a source that emits multiple particle types, with no consensus reached on a single approach. Some agree on the use of separate calculations, while others highlight the complexities involved in normalization.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges related to normalizing results when emitting different particle types, indicating that assumptions about emission rates and particle interactions may affect the outcomes of the simulations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for researchers and practitioners working with MCNP simulations, particularly those modeling sources of Californium-252 or similar scenarios involving multiple particle emissions.

llatosz
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I'm modelling a scenario for the research that I'm working on, and I got the cells and surfaces all mapped out for the environment finally, but now I'm totally stuck on creating a source.
I'd like a point source of Californium-252, but after hours of looking, I don't see any out of the 1000 examples in the manual that covers SDEF for a source that can emit different particles!

I have it in MODE N P, but I don't see how you would go about defining the source to spit out 2 different particle types, each with their own energy spectrum.

Anybody know how to make a Ca-252 source in MCNP? You would be a true savior! :)
 
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For my part for the neutron Spectrum I use a Watt Spectrum for Cf252 :

"mode n p
sdef par=n pos 0 0 0 erg d1
sp1 -3 1.025 2.926"

I use a "mode p n" to transport neutrons and to generate gamma capture (n,g reactions) and to transport them.
The result is for one neutron emitted.
I never use the possibility to emitte two different particles because the normalisation of the result is difficult
 
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One idea is to run two calculations - one with a neutron source, and one with a gamma source - then add them together.
You will have to weight the two calculations depending on what the initial sources are.

For example, if you had a source that emitted X neutrons and Y gammas, then run gamma and neutron calculation separately.
The final result would be X times the neutron answer plus Y times the gamma answer.
 
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PSRB191921 said:
For my part for the neutron Spectrum I use a Watt Spectrum for Cf252 :

"mode n p
sdef par=n pos 0 0 0 erg d1
sp1 -3 1.025 2.926"

I use a "mode p n" to transport neutrons and to generate gamma capture (n,g reactions) and to transport them.
The result is for one neutron emitted.
I never use the possibility to emitte two different particles because the normalisation of the result is difficult

This worked very well and was actually what my coworker suggested too! Thank you very much
 

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