ME statics shear/moment diagrams through integration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of shear and moment diagrams in the context of a mechanics of materials problem, specifically focusing on the integration of a distributed load function. Participants are analyzing the relationships between shear force, bending moment, and the applied loads on a beam.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses confusion regarding the integration of the distributed load function w = (2/3)x and its implications for shear force V, questioning the treatment of an 18 kN force in the equilibrium equations.
  • Another participant requests the complete problem statement to better understand the context of the OP's calculations.
  • One participant clarifies that the equation for the sum of forces in the Y-direction, ΣFy = 9 - (1/3)x^2 - V = 0, applies to a specific free body diagram and emphasizes that the right-hand reaction does not contribute to the equilibrium of the free body in question.
  • There is a reiteration of the relationship dV/dx = -w, leading to the conclusion that V = (1/3)x^2, which is questioned by other participants in relation to the OP's earlier expression for V.
  • Another participant points out the discrepancy between the OP's expression for V and the derived expression from the relationship dV/dx = -w, prompting further inquiry into the implications of these equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of the forces and the integration process. There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the shear force and moment relationships, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the proper application of the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential confusion stemming from mixing distributed loads with point loads, and the implications of these distinctions on the calculations. There are unresolved aspects regarding the integration steps and the definitions of the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


w=(2/3)x

The Attempt at a Solution


So integrating w to get V

(1/3)x^2 +C

Then Sum in the Y-direction should be
9-(2/3)x+18=0

Somebody tell me what in god's name is going on here. It seems like they are ignoring the 18kN force and then plugging in my shear in the sum of Y-forces... What?!

This totally contradicts the formula dV/dx = -w

That would simply give me V=(1/3)x^2 + C
 
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It would help if you would post the complete problem statement, as the rules of PF ask you to do.
 
The equation for ΣFy = 9 - (1/3)x2 - V = 0, applies to the free body diagram depicted in Fig. (b). V and M are the shear force and bending moment which keep this FB in equilibrium under the applied load and the reaction at the LH end of the beam. The right hand reaction of 18 kN is not involved in maintaining this equilibrium, except when dealing with the loaded beam as a whole.

Feodalherren said:
Then Sum in the Y-direction should be
9-(2/3)x+18=0

This is an incorrect statement. The loading of the beam, w = (2/3) x kN/m, is clearly expressing the magnitude of the distributed loading as a function of position along the beam, not the total applied load between 0 and x. Your statement is mixing the two reactions, which are both measured in kN, with a distributed loading, which is measured in kN/m, and thus has no meaning.
 
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But what about the fact that dV/dx = -w

That would mean that V= (1/3)x^2
??
 
Feodalherren said:
But what about the fact that dV/dx = -w

That would mean that V= (1/3)x^2
??

According to the OP, V = 9 - (1/3)x^2. What's dV/dx in this case? How does it compare to w = (2/3)x as shown in Fig. (b) of the OP?
 

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